NVIDIA discussion [2025]

NVIDIA's marketing was full of BS last gen as well. They compared framegen numbers to no framegen to claim absurd performanace gains. It sucks because the tech is good enough to not require any nonsense marketing. IDK if these misleading claims help them in any way.

As for comparing 2x FG to 4X FG, that actually makes more sense than comparing FG off vs FG on like they did with Ada.
 

Reporter: I have a question regarding gamers and consumers. We noticed a significant gap between the RTX 5090 and 5080. The number of CUDA cores in the 5090 is more than twice that of the 5080, and the price has doubled as well. Why did you create such a large difference between the flagship and the near-flagship models?

Jensen Huang: The reason is simple. Once someone wants the best product, they will always choose the best. You know, the market isn’t so segmented. And our enthusiasts, if they want the best, they won’t settle for something slightly better or save $100 by choosing something a bit worse. They just want the best.

Of course, $2,000 is not a small amount, and it’s certainly a high value. But keep in mind that this technology is being used in your home theater-level PC setup. And that PC—where you’ve probably already invested around $10,000 in your monitor and sound system—will definitely need the best GPU. So many of our customers are simply after the absolute best.
 
He is right. GB202 is the best. Its one of the biggest ever produced chip and provides 1.8 TB/s bandwith. 92 billion transistors, 105 TFLOPs compute performance. Is there something else on this level from any other company?
 
Jensen Huang: The reason is simple. Once someone wants the best product, they will always choose the best. You know, the market isn’t so segmented. And our enthusiasts, if they want the best, they won’t settle for something slightly better or save $100 by choosing something a bit worse. They just want the best.

Ha, that doesn't explain why the 5080 couldn't be bigger/faster for $1000.

Halo cards are fine. There's a market for them as long as they deliver the goods. I hope Nvidia was sandbagging with those 5090 performance comparisons because they're not looking that impressive. I suspect those charts aren't telling the whole story since they were run at 4K DLSS performance (i.e. 1080p) with the exception of FC6.
 
Will you still be saying the same when RTX 6090 is released with a price tag of $2500 MSRP, RTX 7090 with $3000 MSRP and so forth? Will you still not wake up from your good-boy-consumer mindset?

It doesn’t matter how much they ask for it if people don’t buy it. I don’t get why everyone blames companies for pricing. It’s the people who pay up that cause prices to be high.
 
It doesn’t matter how much they ask for it if people don’t buy it. I don’t get why everyone blames companies for pricing. It’s the people who pay up that cause prices to be high.
Precisely this. There is literally no other option if you want the "best" consumer card; the closest second place is still an NVIDIA part and trails the specs of the 5090 by a hefty margin. Ultimately history has shown people will pay for the best -- just like how thousand dollar t-shirts exist, just like how two million dollar cars exist, just like how thousand dollar bottles of booze exist. Is a thousand dollar t-shirt or bottle of booze actually that much better than the ones I buy at Costco? To me, they aren't. To the folks who have the money, they are.

And there are plenty of people already chomping at the bit to buy a $2000 5090. In fact I wager the more expensive 5090's will sell just as well, too. Why? Because there's nothing better, that's why.
 
Will you still be saying the same when RTX 6090 is released with a price tag of $2500 MSRP, RTX 7090 with $3000 MSRP and so forth? Will you still not wake up from your good-boy-consumer mindset?
If there isnt any alternative, maybe. You should ask why the competition is slowing down and only brings a mid range GPU...
On the other hand GB202 looks like a product for the professionell market but not really useful for the normal consumer. It has 90% more bandwidth, 85% more performance and 60% higher tdp than the 5080 but at this moment it will be maybe 40% faster. Production costs alone will be 3x higher...

Ha, that doesn't explain why the 5080 couldn't be bigger/faster for $1000.
5080 seems to be in the near of the 4090 and GB203 maybe the sweet spot for the architecture.
 
Except the price is high but zero people have paid up
Wut? How would anyone have "paid up" since it's not for sale yet?

And if you're going to try being snarky and suggesting we have no indication to whether people are going to pay for it, then it's time to remind everyone the 4090 sold exceptionally well even at stupidly inflated prices, far beyond the MSRP of the incoming 5090. We have quite a bit of purchase history surrounding halo products such as the Titans to indicate folks will absolutely be willing to pay, and have already been paying.
 
we have no indication to whether people are going to pay for it
Are they given a choice apart from own one or dont
people are blaming the consumer for the price, if I show you a pack of cards and they are all the ace of spades and say pick one are you to blame for picking the ace of spades
As you can guess someone's pushed one of my buttons that whatever it is its always the consumers fault poor innocent company was just totally helpless.
I'll call it a day now, before the thread devolves into one of my epic rants.....
ps: From Overclockers.co.uk :p
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people are blaming the consumer for the price, if I show you a pack of cards and they are all the ace of spades and say pick one are you to blame for picking the ace of spades

Isn't there a song that revolves around a pack of cards, and says that the only way to win is not to play? maybe I'm mixing things up.
 
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