AMD Vega 10, Vega 11, Vega 12 and Vega 20 Rumors and Discussion

The picture shows Radeon Pro Duo, not Vega.

That looks to be correct.

Even the image file name has "Radeon Pro Duo" in it.

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Looks effectively identical to the 2016 Radeon Pro Duo, 3 8-pin included.

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While early images of that Vega dev board clearly show a 6+8-pin setup.

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Based on rumors of a top-tier Vega having a CLC, I could've believed that card was Vega if it didn't have 3x 8-pin connectors. 2x 8-pin would be plenty for a halo-tier CLC-equipped single-Vega card.
 
AMD seems very committed on giving people a lot of time to save up for Vega though.

Maybe the hbm problem don't let then ship it or maybe a problem with the hbc? The card is working with good performance since months ago.



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Maybe the hbm problem don't let then ship it or maybe a problem with the hbc? The card is working with good performance since months ago.

Who knows?
AMD had a fully functioning Polaris 11 card in early January 2016 which they showed at CES Battlefront side-by-side with a GTX 950, yet the first actual P11 card only went for sale about 8 months later.
RTG hasn't been great on execution IMO.

Maybe they've been using roadmaps with very relaxed dates so they won't risk deceiving the investors, but if the cards are actually up and running before that, they're not agile enough to push forward the release dates.
 
I'm not sure my wallet is equipped for a top-tier CLC Vega either.

Why not?
Maybe the hbm problem don't let then ship it or maybe a problem with the hbc? The card is working with good performance since months ago.



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Remember that there were rumors that SK Hynix want able to supply enough 2 Gbps HBM2. They only had the 1.6 Gbps stuff on their latest catalog, which gives Vega 10 a middling 410 GB/s.

https://videocardz.com/65649/sk-hynix-updates-memory-product-catalog-hbm2-available-in-q1-2017

Q1 2017 No 2 Gbps, 1.6 Gbps Only

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Q4 2016 2 Gbps Only

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Q3 2016 1.6 & 2 Gbps

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Folks were hoping that removal of 2 Gbps options meant that AMD was hogging all of it since they are pretty honey-honey with SK Hynix.

But maybe poor SK Hynix is honestly struggling to make fast enough HBM2?
 
Vega is taking no longer than Polaris. So instead of blaming HBM2 this could just be AMD taking it's sweet time as per usual.
 
It's sweet time is when nvidia is selling the only cards that handle 4k to everyone interested in that?


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Vega is taking no longer than Polaris. So instead of blaming HBM2 this could just be AMD taking it's sweet time as per usual.

Polaris released on time. Vega is about six months late as per AMD's roadmaps.

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Perhaps you could say that AMD's roadmaps were too aggressive (as both Vega and Navi seem to have slipped), but they were publicly shared at official AMD events.
 
AFAIK AMD never said anything more specific than 1H17. And that roadmap is about as vague as they get. You could say it points to early 2017 or 1H17.
 
AFAIK AMD never said anything more specific than 1H17. And that roadmap is about as vague as they get. You could say it points to early 2017 or 1H17.

Let alone that in addition, "projected roadmap, subject do change" should be an hint as to dont read much on them outside " year " or "half year."
 
Polaris released on time. Vega is about six months late as per AMD's roadmaps.

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Perhaps you could say that AMD's roadmaps were too aggressive (as both Vega and Navi seem to have slipped), but they were publicly shared at official AMD events.


Can't really say they are late by a generic road map like that, but we can say they are late in the eyes of consumers lol.

I think Navi will still come out in 1st half of 2018, first will be the replacement of Polaris line.
 
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