Ouch. There goes my dream of having a single computing device (that Win10 phone capable of running legacy x86 apps as a laptop).
Why would a Surface Phone have to be x86? Isn't UWP supposed to support ARM executable too?This is probably happening as a Surface Phone down the road. It's just not happening in 2016. Maybe it'll be somewhere in 2017 when Intel's 5G Atom comes out.
Why would a Surface Phone have to be x86? Isn't UWP supposed to support ARM executable too?
People are going to connect their phone to an external monitor, keyboard and mouse and make it their personal computer that carries around in their pocket.You going to run desktop Office on a phone?
IMO what is naive is believing the majority of consumers will abandon iOS or Android legacy to run Office on their phone, be it connected to a screen and a monitor. Do you think putting x86 on a phone will magically make phone-friendly apps available by some magic?Anything from Microsoft for the consumer market that was launched without windows x86 legacy has just been burning money.
Thinking this will change by miracle is naive IMO.
IMO what is naive is believing the majority of consumers will abandon iOS or Android legacy to run Office on their phone, be it connected to a screen and a monitor. Do you think putting x86 on a phone will magically make phone-friendly apps available by some magic?
For pros, of course, that'd be a different story. And perhaps that's what MS will target. We'll see.
We'll never know now though. Game over.For most people's computer needs, Android and iOS are convenient appendages and not the critical device they need.
Be it professionally or personally, whenever a person needs to do something that requires focus and/or productivity (writing an extensive e-mail, redacting a document, editing videos, editing photos, organizing portfolios, etc.), they will always resort to a Personal Computer, which inherently means legacy-capable windows.
If people could turn the convenient appendage into the real thing, then they would shift their purchase intentions in a heartbeat.
Intel is accelerating its transformation from a PC company to one that powers the cloud and billions of smart, connected computing devices. We will intensify our investments to fuel the virtuous cycle of growth in the data center, IoT, memory and FPGA businesses, and to drive more profitable mobile and PC businesses. Intel delivers a broad range of computing and connectivity technologies that are foundational to this strategy and that position us well to lead the end-to-end transition to 5G. Our connectivity strategy includes increased investment in wired and wireless communications technology for connecting all things, devices and people to the cloud, and to power the communications infrastructure behind it. We re-evaluated projects to better align to this strategy.
I can confirm that the changes included canceling the Broxton platform as well as SoFIA 3GX, SoFIA LTE and SoFIA LTE2 commercial platforms to enable us to move resources to products that deliver higher returns and advance our strategy. These changes are effective immediately.
Mate you need to get out more, Most people use a PC/phone/tablet to access the internet, that is it, the end, case closed. This isn't 1995 anymoreFor most people's computer needs, Android and iOS are convenient appendages and not the critical device they need.
Mate you need to get out more, Most people use a PC/phone/tablet to access the internet, that is it, the end, case closed. This isn't 1995 anymore
?What does this post have to do with anything within the post you quoted?
I think you are making a mistake in assuming that intel seeing 5G as a potential growth area is the same as them returning to making x86 mobile SoCs. They've spent a decade and lost roughly ten billion USD trying to make x86 competitive in that market and failed. The text at the end is quite explicit that they focus on servers and communications (while cutting all low end client SoC development).That's not what I read from the news.
Intel cancelled Broxton because it probably wasn't competitive with Snapdragon 820 (probably not even S650), so they scrapped it in order to focus on 5G SoCs.
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You're stating android/IOS/windows mobile don't cut it for the most people, and they 'need' a PC, but this is not true
as wco81 saiz PC sales have been dropping quarter after quarter, yes partly due to PC's not getting much better than what they were a few years ago but also cause for most people they are finding they can function perfectly fine on an android/IOS device
Exactly. The problem is not hardware capabilities per se, but software availability. (It's worth noting though that the iPad Pro vastly outsold the MacBook with both units having similar hardware.)PC is dropping year after year.
IOS tablets are dropping year after year.
Android tablets are now dropping.
The market that wants tablets for consumption only is basically saturated now, similar to the PC market. However...
x86 Windows tablets are growing as well as x86 gaming PCs.
The market for content creation tablets is now a growth market and has been for the past couple of years. It's still a small fraction of the overall tablet market, so we'll have to see what the ceiling is for it.
iPad Pro did well, it'll be interesting to see if it continues to do well, but it certainly won't stem the fall of iOS tablet devices. It addresses the content creation market, but applications for it are extremely immature at the moment and only address the art creation market, atm. Many people bought it based on its promise, but many have also ended up continuing to do content creation on their Windows devices (specifically Surface Pros) while they hope applications for iPad Pro mature.
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Exactly. The problem is not hardware capabilities per se, but software availability. (It's worth noting though that the iPad Pro vastly outsold the MacBook with both units having similar hardware.)
It is, as always for a new market, a bit of a chicken and egg problem. Still, the iPad Pro models have been well received, so the installed base will be counted in tens of millions this year, and Apple has demonstrated that they put their weight behind the concept. It seems like a decently safe market to enter for software developers. Will still take years to develop though, so a pioneering spirit could pay good dividends.
PC sales are dropping because people don't find a good enough reason to upgrade the ones they already have, and not because everyone is suddenly using ios and Android devices with a keyboard and mouse to perform important productivity tasks.You're stating android/IOS/windows mobile don't cut it for the most people, and they 'need' a PC, but this is not true
as wco81 saiz PC sales have been dropping quarter after quarter, yes partly due to PC's not getting much better than what they were a few years ago but also cause for most people they are finding they can function perfectly fine on an android/IOS device
I think you are making a mistake in assuming that intel seeing 5G as a potential growth area is the same as them returning to making x86 mobile SoCs.