Xbox360/PS3/Wii Worldwide sales data(from KOEI Japan)

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http://www.watch.impress.co.jp/game/docs/20070927/cedec_02.htm

summary (Unit: 1000)
      360 PS3 Wii
Europe 3120 1300 2030 (Until 07 Jul)
USA 5922 1613 3616 (Until 07' Jul)
Japan 448 1186 3523 (Until 07' Sep)
Taiwan 102 47 N/A (Until 07' Aug)
Korea 136 5 N/A (Until 07' Aug)

ps:NDS data is totally wrong(obviously).
 
Well, it's not like KOEI really really knows... they've got to use data aggregators just like the rest of us and th industry. So, I would view it as just another snapshot of a situation we'll never really have a 100% clear view of. Personally, I just go with the console manufacturers shipped numbers every three months and call it a day.
 
So now XB360 sales are going backwards?!?!?!
How do you get that?

If the numbers above are correct and indicate retail sates, they also indicate that MS (or actually their customers) had 1.87 million consoles sitting in stock, in warehouses, or in transit from MS to warehouses at the end of June 2007. While that sounds too high, such an assumption also need to consider that the above numbers doesn't account for some markets and probably contain a lot of extrapolation for the ones they do cover. It certainly doesn't mean they indicate that sales are going backwards, and if they're reliable for the markets they do compare, they're interesting (as a comparison between consoles within those numbers - not across numbers from other sources) nonetheless..
 
These numbers look a little mixed up.

It seems they are reporting retail sales numbers for 360, but shipped numbers for PS3.

Or, are they correct in saying that sony had sold 4.2million consoles at retail, by July? It seems quite high.
 
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http://www.watch.impress.co.jp/game/docs/20070927/cedec_02.htm

summary (Unit: 1000)
      360 PS3 Wii
Europe 3120 1300 2030 (Until 07 Jul)
USA 5922 1613 3616 (Until 07' Jul)
Japan 448 1186 3523 (Until 07' Sep)
Taiwan 102 47 N/A (Until 07' Aug)
Korea 136 5 N/A (Until 07' Aug)

ps:NDS data is totally wrong(obviously).

So, I guess that the PS3 was released in Korea like 15 minutes before September 1 since just 5 thousand PS3 seem just wrong.
 
So, I guess that the PS3 was released in Korea like 15 minutes before September 1 since just 5 thousand PS3 seem just wrong.

PS3 launched mid june in Korea, they only tracked until the end of June. Doesn't seem like a lot, but I don't know the relative cost/value of the PS3 in Korea.
 
According to the chart the DS have sold only 1,245 million in the US, a bit wrong i presume.

:oops: As mentioned in the OP. (My brain does not connect NDS with DS.)


The Strangest number is the US PS3 sales, it looks like Europe will overtake it by the end of the year.
 
PS3 launched mid june in Korea, they only tracked until the end of June. Doesn't seem like a lot, but I don't know the relative cost/value of the PS3 in Korea.

But how much of a price difference would exist between you and a competitor to push a 5K launch? If your launch is around 5k whats you monthly #s afterwards? 500-600 a month? Versus 136K moved by the 360 in a year's time.
 
In korea 80GB PS3's RRP is 518k, Xbox 360 elites are at 470-480k to their currency. only 30k (15GBP or 30USD) difference makes PS3 valued system, it is just that there is no WE2008 nor Tekken 6 that the sales are not that good. ;)
 
yeah that cant be right
DS 33million vs psp 23million thus i think it is 12million in the US

the true surprise is with the ps2, the highest figure is europe by a fair margin + since i assume europe sales are growing faster than NA (various factors US economy going down the toilet, former eastern countries becoming richer etc), europe is now the largest / most important market in the world
 
yeah that cant be right
DS 33million vs psp 23million thus i think it is 12million in the US

the true surprise is with the ps2, the highest figure is europe by a fair margin + since i assume europe sales are growing faster than NA (various factors US economy going down the toilet, former eastern countries becoming richer etc), europe is now the largest / most important market in the world

In revenue generation that might be true but in product sales I think the US still outpaces Europe in current gen hardware.
 
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yeah that cant be right
DS 33million vs psp 23million thus i think it is 12million in the US

the true surprise is with the ps2, the highest figure is europe by a fair margin + since i assume europe sales are growing faster than NA (various factors US economy going down the toilet, former eastern countries becoming richer etc), europe is now the largest / most important market in the world

US economy going down the toilet? I'd hate to see what you consider the EU economy then since USA GDP is growing faster and second, wouldn't that cause more PS2 sales versus new-gen consoles, since it's by far the cheapest?


Anyway these sales figures look reasonable, I guess. I had no idea Taiwan and Korea accounted for significant sales before, that is interesting to me. The USA figures mostly match NPD pretty exactly, except to the end of July as far as I can tell. The phrase "until July" is confusing. Does that mean until end of july or until first of July? As I say, the USA NPD number only seem to directly match the former. Because I know 360 was at 5.9m end of July.

So yes, they're definitly another reasonable estimate. The Japan figures are also about right. The one question is where they got their Euro data as usual and how accurate it is. Of course in Hardware sales Japan and USA are well tracked but EU is not as much.

Also, Canada is missing, and Canada is a pretty big market, one where 360 does very well, and also Australia is missing, and I guess any other countries than that (say, New Zealand, and Middle Eastern countries, etc etc) which may be insignificant.

For example, 360 has probably sold 400-500k or so to date in Canada, and I dont see those accounted for anywhere, they're definitly not in the USA number. Unless the chart is using Europe as a catch all term for "Not the USA or far east", which I guess is possible.

Personally, I just go with the console manufacturers shipped numbers every three months and call it a day.

Except Sony seems to get huge differences in shipped vs sold sometimes. I mean PS3 I think wasn't it about 6 million shipped versus like 3.3 million sold at one point? This also happened with PSP at one point, Sony was actually claiming PSP was a faster seller than PS2 at the same point at one point, but it seemed like they were just shipping huge amounts and not selling very many. I'm sure that's caught up now.

Also, do Sony and Nintendo even give shipped anymore? Nintendo always gave sold not shipped and last Q I guess Sony followed suit, at least for some consoles. Unless they're still releasing shipped numbers and I just dont know about it.
 
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Sony followed suit, at least for some consoles. Unless they're still releasing shipped numbers and I just dont know about it.
They reported 'sold' for Q1FY2007. I'm assuming they made this change to hide the 'shipped but not sold' inventory from the previous fiscal year in the sold numbers this year. If they pick up some pace this holiday and follow it some channel stuffing in their last quarter, they might be able to spin 6 million shipped (FY 2006) + 11 million sold (FY 2008, LTD) as being equal or better to their launch forecast (6 + 11 million shipped), even having transitioned to a stricter yardstick for the measurement. Lookie us, we rock...
 
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