Whoa! Katana/Dreamcast Scud Race / SuperGT demo from 1997-98

[Megadrive1988]

many of you remember that a short DEMO of Sega's Model 3 racing game, Scud Race(r) aka Super GT was made for and shown on Katana development kits. it was the Set or Step 2.1 kit, and I think this had something like 40% of the power/speed of the final Dreamcast hardware. or maybe that was Set/Step 4, I don't really know for certain. Set/Step 5 was the final hardware I believe. but regardless, the Scud Race / Super GT demo was produced on *something* LESS than final Dreamcast hardware. edit: the demo is running on PowerVR ARC1, the prototype and arcade version of PowerVR2, which is weaker/slower than the PowerVR2DC aka CLX2 used in Dreamcast and NAOMI.

with out further delay here it is:

http://jollyrogerdev.ath.cx/Set2_1/Set2_1.html

any comments from Sonic, Lazy8s, Dural ?? 8)

 

[cthellis42]

My only comment is "it doesn't load."

 

[Simon F]

Re: Whoa! Katana/Dreamcast Scud Race / SuperGT demo from 199

with out further delay here it is:
http://jollyrogerdev.ath.cx/Set2_1/Set2_1.html

Gosh, I remember that. That was a while ago. Indeed it was running on an ARC-1 board which had about 50~75% of the power of CLX2 and far fewer features.

 

[LogisticX]

Super GT, Resident Evil: CV and Soul Calibur were the reasons why I pre-ordered the Dreamcast. I've been so mad that SGT never made it to consoles.

 

[akira888]

Scud Race/Super GT was amazing back in 1997 - it's such a tragedy it never had a chance to live on Dreamcast. This was (after a new Phantasy Star) my most wanted game for DC, but oh well.

By the way the page still isn't loading...

 

[GwymWeepa]

Scud Race/Super GT was amazing back in 1997 - it's such a tragedy it never had a chance to live on Dreamcast. This was (after a new Phantasy Star) my most wanted game for DC, but oh well.

By the way the page still isn't loading...

The game shocked me in arcades, I thought the graphics were so realistic heh.

 

[MonkeyLicker]

 

[ERP]

I should probably burst everyones bubbles and tell you that was two different demos. The one with the background and the one with the cars which just had the 2 caars and the repeating bridge section.

I'm not positive about this but I believe they were written by Sega of America, and only ever intended to be tech demos. Sega GT may well have been in development for DC at some point but this wasn't it.

 

[ShinHoshi]

It might suck when compared to RRV (graphically) but I would have liked having it on my DC !
Awesome.

 

[Evil_Cloud]

Speaking of tech demo's, does anyone have that AM2 'Tower of Babel' demo, or anything else on their HDD? (footage of course )

 

[darkblu]

well, dunno about the actual source of those pics, but i remember playing a sega arcade racer where they had a metropolis-style circuit with a turn just like the one on the first shot. it ran on a vs cabinet, and the graphics looker really good (one of the best env mapping i had seen till then), i remained with the impression the cabinet must have been a naomi2, as i had not seen anything like that on the dc (i already had one). despite the brillinat look though i played it only once, when the nearby sega rally championship vs cabinet happened to be occupied (me being a serious sega rally fan)

 

[Evil_Cloud]

well, dunno about the actual source of those pics, but i remember playing a sega arcade racer where they had a metropolis-style circuit with a turn just like the one on the first shot. it ran on a vs cabinet, and the graphics looker really good (one of the best env mapping i had seen till then), i remained with the impression the cabinet must have been a naomi2, as i had not seen anything like that on the dc (i already had one). despite the brillinat look though i played it only once, when the nearby sega rally championship vs cabinet happened to be occupied (me being a serious sega rally fan)

They might have used design/technology of this demo in other Dreamcast/arcade racing games. The car models look quite impressive.

 

[Megadrive1988]

I should probably burst everyones bubbles and tell you that was two different demos. The one with the background and the one with the cars which just had the 2 caars and the repeating bridge section.

I'm not positive about this but I believe they were written by Sega of America, and only ever intended to be tech demos. Sega GT may well have been in development for DC at some point but this wasn't it.

yeah did I noticed these are two different demos. one is labeled 'Drive2' the other Scud Race. however both *appear* to be Scud Race related as the cars in 'Drive2' are from Scud Race, I think, and the other demo shows an incomplete track from Scud Race.

Indeed they were only intended to be tech demos, they did not indicate Sega was actually porting the entire game for release. Scud Race / Super GT was most likely not in development, but then again there were rumors about that since before the demo was known of.

 

[Megadrive1988]

finally movies that are easily downloadable are here:

http://home.pacbell.net/devar79/scud_race.zip
(right click, save)

special thanks to ChumsGum on gaming-age forum for this.

 

[Fox5]

The cars in the car demo looks something like early ps2 quality.

The rest of the stuff looks like saturn quality.

 

[thop]

Megadrive, are you Gigadrive on the GA forums?

 

[Megadrive1988]

indeed 8)

 

[Megadrive1988]

The cars in the car demo looks something like early ps2 quality.

The rest of the stuff looks like saturn quality.

this is well beyond Saturn's league, by far, I assure you. don't let the choppy videos convince you otherwise. the demos actually ran at 60fps @ 640x480. pushing, at the very least, several hundred thousand polygons/sec. with lighting, texturing, and some effects. the hardware running it was basicly 1/4 to 1/3 as powerful as Dreamcast. that is still far more powerful than Saturn, and also more powerful than PowerVR Series1 (PCX1, PCX2) or 3DFX Voodoo Graphics, or Nintendo 64 or PlayStation1.

 

[Fox5]

The cars in the car demo looks something like early ps2 quality.

The rest of the stuff looks like saturn quality.

this is well beyond Saturn's league, by far, I assure you. don't let the choppy videos convince you otherwise. the demos actually ran at 60fps @ 640x480. pushing, at the very least, several hundred thousand polygons/sec. with lighting, texturing, and some effects. the hardware running it was basicly 1/4 to 1/3 as powerful as Dreamcast. that is still far more powerful than Saturn, and also more powerful than PowerVR Series1 (PCX1, PCX2) or 3DFX Voodoo Graphics, or Nintendo 64 or PlayStation1.

Ok, I didn't really mean saturn, I meant model 2, but the point still stands, same kind of textures and polygon counts.(though I did think most likely this would be 60 fps compared to sub 30 for saturn or model 2...and saturn did run dead or alive)

 

[see colon]

heh. i have keys to a sega superGT machine. i get paid to "make sure all the buttons work", which means having to play 2 full games, one for each side. i was just thinking the other day how nice it looked compared to more modern racers.
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