Video cards & next generation EPROM

[aaronspink]

Be it flash, eprom, eeprom or something else the costs is not relevant . Some of you talk as if you need 100s megs of it just to store a few settings when in fact you don't. So, IMO cost in that regard is really not relevant.

Wrong. COST IS ALWAYS A FACTOR!

Keeping settings on the card itself would allow for more flexibility as you wouldn't need to install it on the HD among other examples mentioned.

Which isn't an advantage! In fact, storing it on the HD makes the most sense as it is easier for the driver to get at it that way. Else the driver has to keep doing byte reads over the PCIe bus to an SROM interface sitting on the graphics card at slow speed and all the while providing literally no user benefit.

I'm surprised really, here we are in the age of SSD and soon to be launch PCIe SSD variants and here some of you are still talking about standard HDs like they just came out (IE: lower cost, etc). Gee, I wonder what platters they use, oh wait...

Oh you mean SSD's that cost >10x more per GB than magnetic media? you mean like the mythical PCIe SSD cards that almost no one can afford and provide basically no benefit over even normal SSDs for almost all workloads?

You had a bad idea. People have already given you a plethora of reasons why it is bad. Drop it already.

 

[aaronspink]

I can get one for about $2? That's awesome gimme the link!

so you want the graphics card makers to through away billions of dollars for no benefit, color me unimpressed.

 

[aaronspink]

Is a few KB going to save you more than a micro-second of loading at OS bootup? You still haven't even answered the most basic question of why this would be a benefit when it will increase those cost to manufacture a card.

The sad part is his solution would actually be *SLOWER* than just leaving it on the HD. At this point he's wandering perilously close to the idiot territory.

20 years ago when HD's were in the size of MBs and speed was much slower than it is today you might have made an argument that the increased cost "might" be worth it. But even then I don't think you'd have gotten very far with the idea.

20 years ago, the additional SROM capacity required would likely cost several hundred to several thousand dollars

 

[ECH]

Odd, that you want to argue with me about asking a question . Although entertaining and amusing. Perhaps you should ask the makers of modems, routers, certain high end keyboards, certain mice, etc which use such features instead of the hard drive.

So in all, although your opinion, I've seen other makers do it for reason I've mention, although my opinion. There really is no need to argue with me about trends I've noticed in the PC market, in general. I'm only asking why not the video card as well? Perhaps you should understand the question instead of interpreting it as something else. Take note that I do not have to resort to ad hominem to make it clear why I've asked the question.

 

[silent_guy]

At this point he's wandering perilously close to the idiot territory.

You can remove the conditional qualifiers now...

 

[hoom]

Settings like resolution & refresh rate should be in software on the PC side. DDC already uses EEPROM where it makes sense ie on the monitor side.

Settings like AA/AF are not like a BIOS toggle to turn your mobo Printer port on/off.
They are ISA instructions requested on specific operations that need AA/AF, either by the Application itself via Graphics API or by the Driver if forced via control panel option.

 

[ECH]

Settings like resolution & refresh rate should be in software on the PC side. DDC already uses EEPROM where it makes sense ie on the monitor side.

Settings like AA/AF are not like a BIOS toggle to turn your mobo Printer port on/off.
They are ISA instructions requested on specific operations that need AA/AF, either by the Application itself via Graphics API or by the Driver if forced via control panel option.

Thanks for the information.