Kudos to the UK http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/2970503.stm
UK to aid Iraq DU removal
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but why are they spending time and money on that? the American government had made it clear that there is nothing wrong with leaving radioactive waste strewn across the Iraq; is the UK not with is on this, are they against us now too? 
seriously, i am glad someone is taking responsibility but at the same time i fear that cleaning up the mess is only going to make it more likely that we continue to use the crap and make even bigger messes. :?
seriously, i am glad someone is taking responsibility but at the same time i fear that cleaning up the mess is only going to make it more likely that we continue to use the crap and make even bigger messes. :?
kyleb said:but why are they spending time and money on that? the American government had made it clear that there is nothing wrong with leaving radioactive waste strewn across the Iraq; is the UK not with is on this, are they against us now too?
seriously, i am glad someone is taking responsibility but at the same time i fear that cleaning up the mess is only going to make it more likely that we continue to use the crap and make even bigger messes. :?
Are you one of those people who refuses to use cellular phones because of the radiation? Seriously, microwave ovens probably pose a greater risk to Iraqis than depleated uranium fragments.
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FYI, here are two oposing views on DU
From the US Military:http://www.xs4all.nl/~stgvisie/VISIE/du-briefing-15-3-2003.html
From The Eos life~work resource centre:http://www.eoslifework.co.uk/u231.htm
These articles should inform you of both sides of the controversy.
FYI, here are two oposing views on DU
From the US Military:http://www.xs4all.nl/~stgvisie/VISIE/du-briefing-15-3-2003.html
From The Eos life~work resource centre:http://www.eoslifework.co.uk/u231.htm
These articles should inform you of both sides of the controversy.
Scientifically there is no real evidence for the harm from shreds of Depleted Uranium in Iraq, there is a great deal of confusion about this.
Obviously a sufficient quantity in a close place might pose threats, but that isn't the case for the most part.
Geiger counters have been used and found acceptable radiation levels after the first gulf war.
Obviously a sufficient quantity in a close place might pose threats, but that isn't the case for the most part.
Geiger counters have been used and found acceptable radiation levels after the first gulf war.
Tahir said:
Whoa... I'm not even going to address the slant on that - but rather state that said problems with DU are from the kinetic impact of the DU round on Armor (eg. some of the DU vaporizes and easily burns, thus creating a "radioactive vapor" that's easily inhaled in the same way an Alpha radiation interacts with the body).
And yes, DU's density makes for one hell of a Kinetic Kill/Impact weapon.
ya no kidding "it is tough to store safely, so lets just leave it laying all over the desert." :?
nope. are you one of those people that buy into everything our government feeds us and dismiss anyone with differing opinions as unpatriotic? were you disappointed that Nixon was impeached?
well i don't see why you say that seeing as how DU does not have an off button, and it is toxic as well as radioactive, and when it is left strewn across the land it has a high probably in winding up in water and food supplies. but even if you do have a good argument, there are plenty of scientists who done studies showing otherwise, as well as statisticians who have noted a rise in various medical issues where DU is left after battle such as these childern here. :?
oh, and you can learn a lot more about various opnions on the stuff here.
Crusher said:
nope. are you one of those people that buy into everything our government feeds us and dismiss anyone with differing opinions as unpatriotic? were you disappointed that Nixon was impeached?
Crusher said:
well i don't see why you say that seeing as how DU does not have an off button, and it is toxic as well as radioactive, and when it is left strewn across the land it has a high probably in winding up in water and food supplies. but even if you do have a good argument, there are plenty of scientists who done studies showing otherwise, as well as statisticians who have noted a rise in various medical issues where DU is left after battle such as these childern here. :?
oh, and you can learn a lot more about various opnions on the stuff here.
kyleb said:
Kyle grow the hell up. End the rhetoric and look at some facts. Your site you linked to is hardly objective, comming from the same site which hosts the following articles:
- Comprehensive Sanctions on Iraq are Tantamount to Genocide
- The U.S-British Aggression against Iraq: Facts and Figures
- The Impact of the 1991 Aggression and the Continued Embargo against Iraq:A Violation of Law and Morality
And as for the cancer demographic during the 1990 -> 1999 period in Southern Iraq:
There is a shift in the age group of higher incidence of cancer to the age group of (45-55) years.
Which makes sence when you factor in the overall anatomical effect an alpha class radiation source has on the human body... oh wait, no it doesn't.
What I want to know is where's the massive, and I mean huge spike in lung cancer? Unlike the radiation your probobly imagining Kyle, alpha type radiation isn't capable of penetrating even the outer human tissues. The primary entry point in the lungs and/or mouth. So, if this DU dust is everywhere, why wasn't there a spike in the lung cancer rate? You and this article places the iraqi kids playing in destroyed tanks and APC's - but yet no lung cancer?
But, lets show somemore dying and (primarily) malnurished Iraqi Children and blame it one the United States. Hell, lets be ignorant and forget why they're in this position to begin with - forget the true reasons there was a War and Embargo, just blame America..
Vince, the rhetoric was simply in response to Crusher's, i figured a little back in his face might show him how silly such things are. however, i am sorry i did that now as you seem to take it as a lead to bring up a whole slew of other unrelated crap to try to discredit my position. :?