Some hardware sales in France

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  1. Shifty Geezer

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    Not for a proper next-gen footy title that uses the next-gen console's power for a better experience.
     
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    I hardly doubt the average fifa player cares much about that.
     
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    I know it's stating the obvious, but these figures are the Year to Date up to the end of Q1 07, then the 81,000 PS3 figure represents only 1 week worth of sales. The console was launched on March 23rd, 8 days later the 1st Quarter was over.

    I know that this is the launch week, but still pretty amazing numbers.

    For the other consoles these numbers are for 3 months. Which means the 360 is struggling to sell more than 15,000 units a month, in comparision to the Wii's supply constrained 50,000 per month.

    It will be interesting to know if the Ps3 has now dropped below the 15,000 a month level. There are sod all games being released and nothing on the horizon.

    Hopefully Singstar will still make it's June release date.
     
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    Whatever FIFA may once have been, the latest FIFA (well, latest proper engine upgrade, and not the name-tweaked annual release) was every bit as playable as PES, and we choose it over PES because PES's flaws were more annoying.
     
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    It is hard to tell what are PS3 numbers without official data but if you keep in mind that the only known number is that ps3 sales went down by 82 % in UK after the launch week (and I don't see why France should be any different), it should be well under 15 000 a month. And if you go by anecdotal evidence my closest retailer ( FNAC Nice) still has unsold PS3 stockpilled on the shelves since launch according to the clerk.
    But I guess we will get more official datas next month.
     
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    No doubt, there are those out there that are prepared to spend the money to get the PS3 as long as there are games worth playing on it, including FIFA. But I doubt that the majority of the FIFA crowd is willing to pay that much money to play that game and that is why I am sceptic the the PS3 sales will "explode" due to FIFA, unless it is accompanied by a price drop and it better be a generous one at that.

    Most of those that just want that game will either go the PS2 route or the 360 if they want it next gen. The same applies to Singstar, no doubt a smash hit, but also no doubt mostly played by a market that does not spend €600+ for a console and in many of their cases not to be used more than a karaoke machine...
     
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    I wouldn't expect anything like that when the same games will be on 360 as well.
     
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    I think it is pretty obvious by now that no game will lead to a sale explosion for the consoles at 400 € and more. You totally overestimate ratio Price/game pleasure for most of the buyers.
     
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    Wii has reached 700k now in France. So depending on when exactly that ended its either 150k per month (if not including June) or 100k per month (if including June) for the past few months. So looks like they were either severely supply limited during Q1 or waiting on the PS3 to make decisions.

    http://www.20minutes.fr/article/166949/20070627-High-Tech-La-Wii-dope-le-marche-des-jeux.php

    Edit: BTW Based on Nintendo's previous 21% to 25% figures of France sells representing Europe we get approximately 2.8-3.3 Million sold in Europe
     
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    You know that 150k a month means that nintendo actually sales relative more Wii's in France than in Japan? Japan has 130million people and France 60million. Thats 2,16 times more people in Japan. If you do 150k / 4 x ~2 you get something like 80k.
     
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    There has been a huge influx of supply for Wii in France starting in May. Judging by the lion's share of shelf space it gets in many stores, I'd say that sales are probably pretty good. The Virgin Megastore where I go has a large shelf dedicated just to Wiimotes and nunchuks, and they are stocking a large amount of Wiis behind the counters (instead of fetching them from storage area, like it's customary for other non-handheld console). It's insane, really.

    It's also pretty easy to spot DSs (many) and PSPs (quite a few too) in the subway.
     
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    I can confirm that one PS3 was sold in Lyon, France this June. I saw a dude walking down the street with a brand spankin' new PS3 in the box. Also, I saw a Wii for sale in Charles De Gaul airport. It was in one of those Relay stores inside the international terminal, after you checked in and went through security. Weird place to be buying a game console.
     
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    I saw more PSPs on the Metro in Paris than I saw DSs. Overall, I'd say I saw them both in higher frequency than I would at home.
     
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    i have been looking at VGCharts' European sales. is it reliable figures or 100% makeups?
     
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    There are no such things as reliable figures for Europe. There's no tracking body operating there. You can find drops and drabs for some countries. The only real 'official' figures come from end of year financial reports from the console companies.
     
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    I think PES 2008 on the ps3 will be a different game than on the PC/360 well at least its implied by Konami in the interviews I have read...

    Anyways here is a new pic on this site http://winningeleven11.blogspot.com/

    Looks cool, there is shirt pulling :) (I thought that was illegal :) )
     
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    We don't like Microsoft over here, thus the lack of success with the XBoxes. PS and Nintendo exchange blows as always, nothing new there except for Nintendo pulling ahead of Sony with the new gen. Might still change a bit to Sony's favor with more games becoming available and the prices eventually going down.
     
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    Fifa 2007 on X360 has a free range of motion.

    Edit: And whoever is suggesting that FIFA will sell PS3's, Multiplatform only really sell the cheapest version of it.
     
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    I don't think people liking or disliking MS has much to do with the success of the Xbox brand in Europe. Of course there are individuals who make purchasing a console into a political issue, however that's not how the large mass behaves. The familiarity of the Playstation brand is hard to overcome, although Sony is helping a lot with their current price tag. In my opinion X360 has atleast ok looking future in Europe, but we'll see how it pans out.
     
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