Possible technology related to Slipspace engine

Slipspace is specifically for halo, and that’s going to be much more effective than using something like unreal.

secondly, patents are patents. Just because the patents exists, don’t mean they will be used.

 

Any reason why you think this patent or its inventor has something to do with the Slipspace engine in particular? Can't see any link to 343.

 

It's layed out in the very first two sentences and assumed the user knows 343 is linked to Xbox Games Studios.

 

I get that the inventor is a Technical Art Director at an XGS but how do you know that the said XGS in question is 343 and not some other studio like Ninja Theory for example.

 

Looks like his position works with all Microsoft Game Studios.

 

not many engines can just 'bolt' new technologies on so easily. So I mean, if you had to bet which engine could take it on, it would be this one ... knowing that it was designed for XSX. I don't know if Forza team is overhauling. And the unreal teams are moving to 5.

that being said though, not sure.

neat, but not sure.

 

It can be sent to both unity and unreal as well to be integrated into their engines. We’ve seen MS backport technologies back to the main branch

 

They did integrate LPV from Lionhead's work developing Fable Legend so its not unheard of but yeah, could very well be for Slipspace but I wouldn't rule out integration into Unreal. I'd imagine that most XGS using UE modify it a fair bit to suit their needs so this could very well be a technique developed at XGS to be integrated into engines for use in XGS engines/games.

 

Chroma subsampling isn't new and that MS patented a version at all is a dick move.

Also it just sounds like the usual Graphics programmer mistake of underestimating how much impact color has on image quality. Programmers love looking at metrics, and since color is a low bit metric that can be subsampled a bit compared to luma over a 2d domain, love to crunch it down because according to metrics it doesn't seem that important. But when actually looking at the final image it becomes a lot more obvious what's happened.

One of my favorite examples of engineers obsessing with Luma over Chroma is HDR and UHD mastered movies. Engineers for OETF curves and Codecs and standards obsess over HDR's expanded Luma range. People start watching HDR mastered movies and the thing most reviewers comment on as improved isn't the range of lighting but the improved color range of DCI-P3, something the engineers barely noticed or thought about, something that's utterly discounted in the original HDR OETF curve paper as unimportant in a single sentence.

Oops.

 

Doesn't Destiny basically use the Halo engine? Bungie would conceivably use an new version would they not? Maybe they share the benefits?

 

No. By hue should have had to rebuild from scratch. All that halo code would have been owned by MS.

slipspace is an entirely new engine that they started after their struggle moving the engine forward with H5

 

This sounds like SFS related?

 

IIRC, Bungie were granted a license to continue using the engine after splitting with MS. There are tech presentations describing the evolution of Destiny's codebase from what it started (branched from Halo midway through the development of Reach) up to the version that shipped in Destiny.

That wouldn't cover any changes that 343 made for H4/5 though, and definitely not Slipspace.

 

wow okay thanks, that makes sense considering how fast they were able to turn around Destiny.
Ouch, looks like that bit them in the butt as it bit 343i.

this explains a lot why Destiny 2 continues to suffer with content and 343i decided to move on.