PGR3 appreciation thread.

Deepblue · Apr 3, 2006

Such a gorgeous game.

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Karma Police · Apr 3, 2006

It's really a shame you can't download pics from the photo-mode onto your computer. Such a shame.......

3roxor · Apr 3, 2006

Can you also play this game in photo-mode?

Deepblue · Apr 3, 2006

3roxor said:
Can you also play this game in photo-mode?

Watch the videos.

Bobbler · Apr 3, 2006

Does the rest of the game look substantially better than the downloadable demo?

I found RR6 to be a lot more fun and to overall have a better look to it (the track you got to play on RR6 demo vs the PGR3 demo was a lot more impressive looking).

I don't mean to be a drag (since this is an appreciation thread), but I've been wondering ever since I dl'ed the demo last week. It just wasn't very impressive -- certainly not as impressive as the hype/excitement and photo mode shots I've seen made me believe.

Deepblue · Apr 3, 2006

Bobbler said:
Does the rest of the game look substantially better than the downloadable demo?

I found RR6 to be a lot more fun and to overall have a better look to it (the track you got to play on RR6 demo vs the PGR3 demo was a lot more impressive looking).

I don't mean to be a drag (since this is an appreciation thread), but I've been wondering ever since I dl'ed the demo last week. It just wasn't very impressive -- certainly not as impressive as the hype/excitement and photo mode shots I've seen made me believe.

What's in the demo?

Again, watch the Nurburgring video.

EDIT: I highly doubt RR6 has better tracks... There is nothing like racing across the brooklyn bridge into New York.

scooby_dooby · Apr 3, 2006

Bobbler said:
I don't mean to be a drag (since this is an appreciation thread), but I've been wondering ever since I dl'ed the demo last week. It just wasn't very impressive -- certainly not as impressive as the hype/excitement and photo mode shots I've seen made me believe.

There's a world of difference between photo-mode and in-game, huge.

With that said, PGR3 for me it really depends on the track, the night-time courses are really really nice, and any track without a fence or guardrail to shimmer, also really impresses me.

I've never played the demo so I'm not sure.

Deepblue · Apr 3, 2006

All they needed to do to make PGR3 look perfect was have the resolution a "true" 720p and full AA and AF.

Bobbler · Apr 3, 2006

scooby_dooby said:
There's a world of difference between photo-mode and in-game, huge.

With that said, PGR3 for me it really depends on the track, the night-time courses are really really nice, and any track without a fence or guardrail to shimmer, also really impresses me.

I've never played the demo so I'm not sure.

For all the things I love about the GT series, I think the introduction of a photo mode was possibly the worst thing they could have done... now it seems like an acceptable thing to add to games. (I think GT series was the first that added a photo mode, wasn't it?)

I'm not sure what track was in the demo though (it was in a city), and I'm not a huge racing fan (GT series keeps my racing needs fully met), so I probably won't be picking PGR3 up unless I found it for dirt cheap. I'm sure parts of the game are impressive, just the demo didn't leave me wanting to run out and buy the game, that's for sure!

With all that said, the photo mode shots in the OP do look really nice, no doubt.

Deepblue · Apr 3, 2006

scooby_dooby said:
There's a world of difference between photo-mode and in-game, huge.

With that said, PGR3 for me it really depends on the track, the night-time courses are really really nice, and any track without a fence or guardrail to shimmer, also really impresses me.

I've never played the demo so I'm not sure.

The only thing photo-mode does is bump the resolution to a true 720p and add full AA. That is, if you don't use any aftereffects.

One of the first shots up there isn't even photomode, it's the car promo during the race countdown...

!eVo!-X Ant UK · Apr 3, 2006

Deepblue said:
All they needed to do to make PGR3 look perfect was have the resolution a "true" 720p and full AA and AF.

And make it 60fps

Deepblue · Apr 3, 2006

!eVo!-X Ant UK said:
And make it 60fps

The motion blur did an excellent job of covering up the fact that it was 30 fps.

supa50 · Apr 3, 2006

Yep....i think it was the framerate more than anything which let this game down.

scooby_dooby · Apr 3, 2006

Deepblue said:
The only thing photo-mode does is bump the resolution to a true 720p and add full AA. That is, if you don't use any aftereffects.

One of the first shots up there isn't even photomode, it's the car promo during the race countdown...

Well I don't actually ever use Photo-mode, I was more referring to the garage, where ALOT of these screens are taken from. The lighting and car models in the Garage are simpyl stunning, the HDR lighting in there is some of the most realistic I've ever seen. I assumed photo-mode was the same quality, as alot of the car models shown in screen grabs from photomode seem to be on that same level.

If only the actual game looked like that.

cam · Apr 4, 2006

Iâ€™m so unbelievable tempted to get a 360 for this game and I donâ€™t think I can hold out till Forza 2 comes along, but the one thing that I just donâ€™t understand is why give people a photo mode but donâ€™t give them a way to take them off the system to share or print?

I think GT4 was the first with a p-mode, it was okay to play with for a while, but seemed to really catch on because of the fact that people could upload them through the USB and on to forums.

Did Bizarre ever give a reason for it? Maybe they just ran out of time?

!eVo!-X Ant UK · Apr 4, 2006

scooby_dooby said:
Well I don't actually ever use Photo-mode, I was more referring to the garage, where ALOT of these screens are taken from. The lighting and car models in the Garage are simpyl stunning, the HDR lighting in there is some of the most realistic I've ever seen. I assumed photo-mode was the same quality, as alot of the car models shown in screen grabs from photomode seem to be on that same level.

If only the actual game looked like that.

I thought Xenos had to do tile render to get HDR?

Jabjabs · Apr 4, 2006

Karma Police said:
It's really a shame you can't download pics from the photo-mode onto your computer. Such a shame.......

... oh yes you can, with a hack.

http://www.bizarreonline.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=10557

Looks great when ripped from photo-mode.

AlNom · Apr 4, 2006

cam said:
Did Bizarre ever give a reason for it? Maybe they just ran out of time?

Given that nothing else can be transferred from the Xbox 360 other than save files... hm...
I wonder if it's more a "fault" of tightening the security of the system. In which case, it could have been a time factor in implementing something that wouldn't open up the 360 to transferring files other than screenshots. But that's just my paranoia speaking.

scooby_dooby · Apr 4, 2006

Alstrong said:
Given that nothing else can be transferred from the Xbox 360 other than save files... hm...
I wonder if it's more a "fault" of tightening the security of the system. In which case, it could have been a time factor in implementing something that wouldn't open up the 360 to transferring files other than screenshots. But that's just my paranoia speaking.

It's already been done, some guy on the Bizarre forums exported a whole bunch of photo mode shots. I think he used the SATA adapter method to his PC to extract the files.

woops - jabjab beat me to it

scooby_dooby · Apr 4, 2006

!eVo!-X Ant UK said:
I thought Xenos had to do tile render to get HDR?

Doesn't it have to tile render to do anything at 720p?

Why don't you go take a look at the gfx in the garage and let me know what you think of the lighting.

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