NVIDIA's Plan for 1H 2003

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Here's interesting comment from Merril Lynch's report on NVIDIA

(1) no low-k dielectric for NV30 so ramp up should not be problem,
and means future variant of NV30 with low-k dielectrc should
would yield much better performance (probably 3Q time)

(2) another version of NV30 will come out in April Q. My guess
is less costly implementation.
 
I doubt Nvidia would release anything better than maybe a slightly faster NV30( if that) so soon after the original just hit shelves. But this will be around the same time that Ati should be announcing their next chip so it could be a possibility. I think competition is about to seriously heat up. Ain't it great!!
 
NV30 has been done for many many months. they had working versions in Feb. for all we know, NV35 has taped out or will shortly. NV30 isn't cutting edge to Nvidia anymore, even though it's just being introduced to the public. I'm not saying NV35 will be out in March, but June-July isn't out of the question. or shouldn't be out of the question. And I don't think NV35 will be any massive improvement over NV30. it'll likely be the same overall architecture, but somewhat enhanced with more vertex math engines, new AA unit, maybe a 256-bit bus. I'd expect the additional vertex engines since NV30 has equivalent of LESS than the 4 vertex shaders that R300 has. R300 can do 1M polys per Mhz. or 1 poly per clock tick. (i believe that's correct) only way NV30 pumps out more polys is because it's clocked so much higher.

NV35 should have the usual faster core clockspeed with more memory & faster memory. sounds like a lot because i went into detail but what i described isnt that different from NV30. no more different than NV25 is over NV20. the NV35 should have the same vertex and pixel shader instructions as NV30, so no major change except for the AA method (hopefully!), just mostly higher performance. Nvidia probably won't even annouce it til May, 6 months from now. Otherwise, Nvidia is looking serious behind schedual if all they have in the spring is a slightly faster NV30 or nothing new at all.


just my speculation....
 
The original Geforce256 didnt last 3 months before being superceded by the DDR and the Gf1 DDR lasted about 3 months before being superceded by the Gf2 GTS.

Could we see a similar product rush here as 0.13 process yields are perfected?
 
NV30 will be like a concept car, relativally few people (enthusiasts) will buy it. IIRC the real market (ten times more money) is in the $100~$200 range. I would like to see what they have for it :)
 
The original Geforce256 didnt last 3 months before being superceded by the DDR and the Gf1 DDR lasted about 3 months before being superceded by the Gf2 GTS.

Could we see a similar product rush here as 0.13 process yields are perfected?

exactly what I've been thinking for a few weeks now.

I do hope that NV35 will make it to market in a similar timeframe as
GeForce2 gts did after GF1 DDR.
 
This is pure speculation from me, but doesn't Nvidia have 2 3d graphics design teams working on separate products? If so wouldn't it mean that NV 40?? should be ready in the fall (figure year apart with a 6 month refresh to keep everyone happy). If this is the case, NV should ditch the refresh (NV35?) and go straight to NV40. If I were a board maker, I would want some assurances from Nvidia that my product wasn't going to be obsolete shortly after I released it. Back in the GeForceDDR days the computer business was hopping and you could move a lot of product in 3 months. Today things are slow and I doubt one could make a profit with that kind of shelf like.
 
pascal said:
NV30 will be like a concept car, relativally few people (enthusiasts) will buy it. IIRC the real market (ten times more money) is in the $100~$200 range. I would like to see what they have for it :)

No, most of the money is made in the <$100 range. Case in point: There're still a lot of PC's being sold with TNT2 M64's.

I still think that the NV31 will be a truly low-cost product (that is, the next card in the MX product line, starting at around $100), while the NV34 will be the midrange product (starting out at $200 or so). Of course, a recent roadmap I saw had the two reversed, but this is of little consequence in the end.
 
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