Nvidia to present Pure Video tomorrow

ANova said:
http://www.nvidia.com/page/purevideo_support.html

Notice where it only mentions gamma correction and color space conversion under WMV9 as opposed to hardware acceleration under everything else.

Basically those who paid the most, got screwed in the process. Alienate your most loyal customers, way to go nvidia! :LOL:

eh, i have an agp 6800 and i dont feel alienated
 
Mulciber said:
ANova said:
http://www.nvidia.com/page/purevideo_support.html

Notice where it only mentions gamma correction and color space conversion under WMV9 as opposed to hardware acceleration under everything else.

Basically those who paid the most, got screwed in the process. Alienate your most loyal customers, way to go nvidia! :LOL:

eh, i have an agp 6800 and i dont feel alienated

I said those who paid the most; a 6800nu is not a 6800 GT or 6800 Ultra.
 
ANova said:
Mulciber said:
ANova said:
http://www.nvidia.com/page/purevideo_support.html

Notice where it only mentions gamma correction and color space conversion under WMV9 as opposed to hardware acceleration under everything else.

Basically those who paid the most, got screwed in the process. Alienate your most loyal customers, way to go nvidia! :LOL:

eh, i have an agp 6800 and i dont feel alienated

I said those who paid the most; a 6800nu is not a 6800 GT or 6800 Ultra.

and i said i have a 6800 and dont feel alienated...
 
ANova said:
Basically those who paid the most, got screwed in the process. Alienate your most loyal customers, way to go nvidia! :LOL:

You could argue that the people with 6800 GT's and Ultras aren't the people that need the video processor the most because they probably have the CPU power to do the HDTV decoding using the CPU. It's more of a HTPC thing imo and the 6800 GT/Ultra isn't that interesting in those situations. You'd want a low power, preferably fanless solution for that.
 
All WMV HD movies are running fine on my 6800Ultra. There are some troubles with DVD playback however (not CPU load related).
 
DegustatoR said:
There are some troubles with DVD playback however (not CPU load related).

Me too (6800 GT): with nVidia DVD decoder 1.00.67 and WMP 10 (drivers 67.03 or 71.20) i only get black screen and no audio...tried to swap my good old Radeon 9700...same issues... :devilish:
WinDVD 6 works well, but MPEG2 playback does not seem hardware accelerated... :?
 
Murakami said:
Me too (6800 GT): with nVidia DVD decoder 1.00.67 and WMP 10 (drivers 67.03 or 71.20) i only get black screen and no audio...tried to swap my good old Radeon 9700...same issues... :devilish:
That's a software bug i believe.

WinDVD 6 works well, but MPEG2 playback does not seem hardware accelerated... :?
You can switch h/w acceleration in WinDVD options. If it's on then it's h/w accelerated. But i get frame skipping with h/w assisted DVD decoding in WinDVD and PowerDVD on some driver versions. It isn't CPU load related b/c CPU load (P4 3,4GHz) is well under 30% when playing DVD.
 
Bjorn said:
http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=2305&p=10

Doesn't seem like a huge win for the NV40. Though it has better decoding quality then Ati if you look a bit earlier in the review.

Edit: to slow
Anand used the Zoom Player Pro in that test. I’ve tried the PowerDVD player (off-shelf-player’s) and they don’t deliver as good IQ as the ATI MMC. Check out the images at pcper where they compared the NV player to the ATI MMC. The image quality of the streetcar shot (particularly the writing) is clearly much better on the ATI MMC
 
You can switch h/w acceleration in WinDVD options. If it's on then it's h/w accelerated. But i get frame skipping with h/w assisted DVD decoding in WinDVD and PowerDVD on some driver versions. It isn't CPU load related b/c CPU load (P4 3,4GHz) is well under 30% when playing DVD.

I know it, but, during playback, in the information tab i do not see the type of DXVA acceleration in use (HWMC, IDCT etc), that i always saw with every card i used to play... :?:
 
digitalwanderer said:
Nvidia briefed the press in the USA a few days ago about this marchitecture. We know it works on the NV41 generation of chips but we're unsure whether it works on NV40 cards. We suspect it won't.
I don't think it will, I think it's genuinely busted on the nV40 and they fixed it in the hardware on the nV41.

I could be wrong and I hope I am, but I'm not overly optimistic. :?

Why the NV40 gets some acelleration lets say call the PureVideo 1.0
and the NV41 gets all of it lets say call the PureVideo 2.0

Hmm now doesn't that remind you of ATi with their FULLSTREAM 1.0 and 2.0 or whatever the numbers where? cause like all these 9200 bought cards for FULLSTREAM support and when it doesn't work with divx ATI just made up some BS say yeah you get acelleration just only on real video X?
 
The real point here is that nVidia lied about the 6800's abilities for 6 months after they knew it was broken.......

Not a suprise, just business as usual...... ;)
 
I use mostly winDVD6.0 PE these days. Since the additional filters I'm usually using do not work with hardware acceleration enabled, I tolerate a more or less double than usual CPU load than with HW acceleration enabled:

http://www.mitrax.de/?cont=artikel&aid=24&page=17

Yes I know it's not directly relevant to the thread here, but I can't get rid of that weird feeling that far more could be done with existing hardware than we see today. Those interested either experiment with winDVD6.0 or any other player that supports those added filters. It's a pure matter of preferences and it does need a bit of fine-tuning in order to escape annoying side-effects...
 
Blastman said:
Bjorn said:
http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=2305&p=10

Doesn't seem like a huge win for the NV40. Though it has better decoding quality then Ati if you look a bit earlier in the review.

Edit: to slow
Anand used the Zoom Player Pro in that test. I’ve tried the PowerDVD player (off-shelf-player’s) and they don’t deliver as good IQ as the ATI MMC. Check out the images at pcper where they compared the NV player to the ATI MMC. The image quality of the streetcar shot (particularly the writing) is clearly much better on the ATI MMC
Ahh, that's what I was thinking. ATI has had adaptive de-interlacing since the original Radeon (or maybe earlier), and I was surprised at Anand's results.

PureVideo's deinterlacing that accounts for vertical motion, however, is quite good. Looking at the T2 shot, you can see NVidia clean up the top panel very well.

This would be excellent for many console gaming situations like racing games. I noticed some pretty bad interlacing artifacts when hooking up my PS2 to the comp. Since many current and most future games and consoles would likely be progressive, though, this point is rather moot.
 
Mulciber said:
ANova said:
Mulciber said:
ANova said:
http://www.nvidia.com/page/purevideo_support.html

Notice where it only mentions gamma correction and color space conversion under WMV9 as opposed to hardware acceleration under everything else.

Basically those who paid the most, got screwed in the process. Alienate your most loyal customers, way to go nvidia! :LOL:

eh, i have an agp 6800 and i dont feel alienated

I said those who paid the most; a 6800nu is not a 6800 GT or 6800 Ultra.

and i said i have a 6800 and dont feel alienated...

Why dont you get it? You DIDNT pay the most. He WASNT talking to you, or about you.

On topic, I dont feel like I should have to pay for this. And I probably wont.
 
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