I got to see a prototype Phantom!

Mothers and sisters are a huge untapped market for easy operated gaming machines (downloading a game is so much easier that putting a game disc in, and who likes shopping, not girls that's for sure).
Or maybe they would, if they didn't have brothers, sons, boyfriends and husbands who'd buy and set up the games for them.
 
rabidrabbit said:
Mothers and sisters are a huge untapped market for easy operated gaming machines (downloading a game is so much easier that putting a game disc in, and who likes shopping, not girls that's for sure).
Or maybe they would, if they didn't have brothers, sons, boyfriends and husbands who'd buy and set up the games for them.


You mean brothers, sons, boyfriends and husbands who'd buy and set up anything that needs plugging into the wall and press a button, except the hair-dryer? :devilish:
 
Ok.

The keyboard is proprietary (or so they say). So you wouldn't be able to hook up a Logitech keyboard and mouse to the Phantom. In the same respect you wouldn't be able to hook up the Phantom keyboard to a computer. The keyboard itself feels very good, and actually felt comfortable to use with it in your lap. The mouse is optical with a middle scroll button. Very standard, but it felt better than it looked if that means anything.

Video: DVI out, VGA out, Component, and S-Video. The screen resolution in the one game I played was adjustable, so this leads me to believe you can play whatever your TV will support. This may change so don't hold me to it.

Audio: Regular RCA, Analog Surround, and Digital Optical output. I wasn't able to test the surround sound unfortunately.

There are ethernet and two usb ports on the back. I'm not sure if the USB ports will be there on the final product as this was a prototype. The quality of the product (workmanship) was very good. The unit and the keyboard and mouse all felt very good to hold. I would hope that was the case considering it was hand built, but it is a good start. It's about the size of an XBOX and perhaps a tiny bit larger. They do think it will decrease in size considerably. ~20%.

A lot of the people who worked on the original XBOX are supposedly working on this unit, as well as a bunch of guys that created DirectX.

Unfortunately, the internet connection in the store stops any downloads over a certain size so I couldn't load any games. I was going to try Thief. They ran UT 2004 at CES and you can connect with any PC server which is a very good thing. They say it will also support MMORPG's which is also good. (I expected these things, but you never know...)

The controls work like any PC, so there is nothing special there. The wireless solution for the keyboard and mouse would be very good though.

Serious Gaming: There MAY be some neat things in store ever if you are a serious gamer. I really can't say too much, but I was impressed at what MIGHT be in the works. The biggest thing I tried to convince them to do was have an unlimited service, where you pay a monthly fee and you can play any game you want. Think about it (the following is not fact but what i want to see!!!!)....say $100 bucks a month, but you can play any game you want at any time. That's two games a month or maybe less considering games have recenlty came out at $55. For the same amount of money you can play as many games as possible. Not a bad deal in my opinion if you were going to pay that much anyway. Or perhaps have a lifetime fee like TiVO does, where you pay up front, then you have free games for the life of the console.

Families: This is where the biggest market is in my opinion. You can let your kids have tons of edutainment titles when they are young. Then you can play your own games when they go to bed. Best yet, it's in the living room not the your office. Also, you can set up accounts where the kids can only play certain things and have no "purchasing" power. That way you give them what you want them to have. And you also do not need to run out and find certain titles or rent games for you kids. In addition, there should be message boards and a messenging service (Like AIM - my sister is addicted to AIM like all middle/high school girls).

All in all I was impressed. It's not perfect by any means, but it fits a new niche market that has the ability to grow if done correctly. I can answer any other questions you might have.
 
CMAN said:
I'm not sure if I can say price. I'll find out tomorrow. I will say the price is what one might expect XBOX 2 or PS3 to cost.

They seem to be going after the consumer who wants to play computer games but not dealing with upgrading, dealing with going to the store, or troubleshooting games not working.

The couple of times I mentioned PS2 or XBOX, they tried to point out they didn't want to compete with them, or the Phantom was another kind of product.

They also seem very happy with there delivery system (and the time it took to start a game). They claimed a recently released game took only 10 minutes to start from "ordering" it. I took this as a shot at Steam, but I could be wrong.

Hmm, will valve games be on the phantom? If not, then that's a really big problem for some people.
 
CMAN said:
There MAY be some neat things in store ever if you are a serious gamer. I really can't say too much, but I was impressed at what MIGHT be in the works.
For some strange reason Infinium has pretty much lost all credit with me where it comes to trusting them to bring promised features to fruition...
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All this talk and no price? And if this is for mons and sister.... NOT, they dont buy rigs, they ask there son or brother, or boyfriend. What is the OS for this?CE?
 
CMAN said:
The biggest thing I tried to convince them to do was have an unlimited service, where you pay a monthly fee and you can play any game you want. Think about it (the following is not fact but what i want to see!!!!)....say $100 bucks a month, but you can play any game you want at any time.

I have a feeling a scheme like that would be MUCH more successful if it wasn't tied to a dodgy underpowered piece of hardware like the Phantom, because $100/month is A LOT of money...
 
Guden Oden said:
CMAN said:
The biggest thing I tried to convince them to do was have an unlimited service, where you pay a monthly fee and you can play any game you want. Think about it (the following is not fact but what i want to see!!!!)....say $100 bucks a month, but you can play any game you want at any time.

I have a feeling a scheme like that would be MUCH more successful if it wasn't tied to a dodgy underpowered piece of hardware like the Phantom, because $100/month is A LOT of money...

Sega Channel(or was it Xband?) offered something like this, but I think it was only like $20-$40 a month.
 
The OS is XP, in response to a previous question (unless that has changed, which I do not think it has).

Later
 
sunscar said:
The OS is XP, in response to a previous question (unless that has changed, which I do not think it has).

Later

That's correct, it's a stripped down version of XP.

karlotta said:
All this talk and no price? And if this is for mons and sister.... NOT, they dont buy rigs, they ask there son or brother, or boyfriend. What is the OS for this?CE?

I can't say price, but I gave you a good idea of what it was earlier.

digitalwanderer said:
For some strange reason Infinium has pretty much lost all credit with me where it comes to trusting them to bring promised features to fruition...

As I said, this isn't even in the plans, but they have been thinking of serious gamers...

Fox5 said:
Hmm, will valve games be on the phantom? If not, then that's a really big problem for some people.

Valve won't have a say. It depends on Vivendi and Valve's contract with Vivendi. If Vivendi isn't allowed to sell valve titles "electronically" then it would be a no.

Guden Oden said:
I have a feeling a scheme like that would be MUCH more successful if it wasn't tied to a dodgy underpowered piece of hardware like the Phantom, because $100/month is A LOT of money...

Look at what I said a few pararaphs above in response to digi....
When i was mentioning to the guys, I also said that is what would make me look at possibly purchasing one.

edit: having trouble with quotes
 
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