Help with P-Scan PS2 games using a Monitor

[Phil]

Well, after having a Vesa2 compatible monitor at home for sometime now, I just thought it's about time I try out a few games that offer progressive output here in Europe.

The only game I currently own is the Getaway. The linuxkit also runs the VGA signal perfectly.

Now, here's the problem. I start up the game using my tv and click myself to the display settings. Before actually pressing the X-button to enable progressive scan, I switched the cables at the back to connect the PS2 to my VESA2 compatible monitor. After I switched the cables, I pressed the X-button and there ya go, The Getaway running on my monitor. Unfortunately though, it doesn't last long and after about 3 seconds, the damn game switches itself back to PAL which results in the monitor presenting a black screen.

Question: what do I need to do (or press) so that the progressive scan option stays active? Also, how do you guys start up those games, as my monitor doesn't support PAL signals which the PS2 sends out while booting up games...

thanks in advance
Phil

 

[Phil]

hahaha!!! I got it to work... seemed to have a minor bug. It works now... wow, the IQ is superb.. too superb actually.. it looks more like a PC game now (too clean).

 

[maskrider]

You need to confirm the YES/NO question after changing mode, try right and press X to confirm.

 

[ChryZ]

Interesting topic.

Phil, what kind of cable do you use while playing TheGetaway? The one from the Linux-Kit? Something else?

Anybody, I am planing to get a GC ... Phil made me thinking, any chance to use the GC and a monitor to take advantage of all the progressive scan capable games. What is the best way? VGA box? Modified component-cable?

 

[maskrider]

Interesting topic.

Phil, what kind of cable do you use while playing TheGetaway? The one from the Linux-Kit? Something else?

Anybody, I am planing to get a GC ... Phil made me thinking, any chance to use the GC and a monitor to take advantage of all the progressive scan capable games. What is the best way? VGA box? Modified component-cable?

Modified component cable should be the best choice. But the cable should be modified from the original GC component cable.

 

[Phil]

Interesting topic.

Phil, what kind of cable do you use while playing TheGetaway? The one from the Linux-Kit? Something else?

Anybody, I am planing to get a GC ... Phil made me thinking, any chance to use the GC and a monitor to take advantage of all the progressive scan capable games. What is the best way? VGA box? Modified component-cable?

Yep, used the VGA cable that comes with the PS2 linux kit. Wow, it's really hard to believe it's a PS2 game running on the monitor.. image quality as crisp as a PC game. Fantastic! I might have to get that VGA box (the one London-boy has I think) after all...

You need to confirm the YES/NO question after changing mode, try right and press X to confirm.

Yeah I tried that at first, but it didn't seem to work. After switching it first to NTSC and then trying it again, it worked. Thanks though...

 

[maskrider]

Interesting topic.

Phil, what kind of cable do you use while playing TheGetaway? The one from the Linux-Kit? Something else?

Anybody, I am planing to get a GC ... Phil made me thinking, any chance to use the GC and a monitor to take advantage of all the progressive scan capable games. What is the best way? VGA box? Modified component-cable?

Yep, used the VGA cable that comes with the PS2 linux kit. Wow, it's really hard to believe it's a PS2 game running on the monitor.. image quality as crisp as a PC game. Fantastic! I might have to get that VGA box (the one London-boy has I think) after all...

Blaze VGA box is pretty ok, it also provides a composite video and audio outputs in addition to VGA output.

I have also bought it and tried.

 

[ChryZ]

Thanx! Guess I'll ending up with a Linux-Kit for the PS2 and a modified component cable for the GC.

Googled a nice modification instruction up:

GC RGB:
http://www.rgbcube.co.uk/

GC VGA
Sorry no luck yet, could someone help out?

 

[PC-Engine]

Thanx! Guess I'll ending up with a Linux-Kit for the PS2 and a modified component cable for the GC.

Googled a nice modification instruction up:

GC RGB:
http://www.rgbcube.co.uk/

GC VGA
Sorry no luck yet, could someone help out?

I ordered my GCN VGA cable from here:

http://www.gamestech.com/Gcube/gcube.htm

Scroll to the bottom for the cables.

 

[chaphack]

wow, the IQ is superb.. too superb actually

Another PS2 gamer discovering the joy of P.Scan. If possible, do try and play the games on larger display.

 

[ChryZ]

I ordered my GCN VGA cable from here:

http://www.gamestech.com/Gcube/gcube.htm

Scroll to the bottom for the cables.

Thanx ... I know that it is quit easy to order one, but I would like to fix me one VGA/RGB hybrid cable (maybe with a switch, depending on the modification). Those original component cables are pricey, if I could avoid buying two cables, then that would be a additional game from the saved money

 

[micron]

I have been using a pc monitor and a VGA box with my Dreamcast for about a year. It took me about 5 or 6 monitors before I found one that worked with that setup. All of the monitors worked with my pc, but only one with my Dreamcast?...anyone know what gives?

 

[London Geezer]

yeah there is a thread dedicated to the Blaze VGA Adapter around here, everything is explained there, including games that do and do not support it...

u can play SOME games in pro-scan even though they do not actually support pro-scan... or at least the european versions, like Burnout2 and Guilty Gear X2 (no pro-scan option in the PAL versions but they work fine in pro-scan mode using the Blaze VGA Adapter)

all it does is *switching PRO-scan ON* which is great for some games but not so good for others (the majority really)... the ones that do work (usually the ones that support pro-scan in either NTSC or PAL versions) look absolutely superb, MUCH better than XBOX and GC games for which there is NO way to get pro-scan out in Europe...

 

[PC-Engine]

I have been using a pc monitor and a VGA box with my Dreamcast for about a year. It took me about 5 or 6 monitors before I found one that worked with that setup. All of the monitors worked with my pc, but only one with my Dreamcast?...anyone know what gives?

DC outputs a 60Hz refresh@640x480 so if your monitor supports that mode then it should work.

 

[micron]

Thank you!

 

[PiNkY]

For PS2 though, I think your monitor must support sync on green to function properly with the linux kit... But I guess that is old news here

 

[London Geezer]

For PS2 though, I think your monitor must support sync on green to function properly with the linux kit... But I guess that is old news here

that would be correct if u r using the cable provided with the Linux cable. With the Blaze VGA Adapter u can use any monitor as long as it supports 640x480 and above at 60Hz.

 

[Phil]

Another PS2 gamer discovering the joy of P.Scan. If possible, do try and play the games on larger display.

Actually, I didn't want to imply that I didn't discover better image quality before with PS2. It is much better than the IQ using my small TV. On the other hand though, the IQ displayed by my other TV which is a 32" 100Hz is at least equal to the P-signal using the monitor.

u can play SOME games in pro-scan even though they do not actually support pro-scan... or at least the european versions, like Burnout2 and Guilty Gear X2 (no pro-scan option in the PAL versions but they work fine in pro-scan mode using the Blaze VGA Adapter)

That's funny actually. I always thought Burnout2 had P-scan, but it doesn't. Heh, might have to get that Blaze VGA adapter.

 

[London Geezer]

Another PS2 gamer discovering the joy of P.Scan. If possible, do try and play the games on larger display.

Actually, I didn't want to imply that I didn't discover better image quality before with PS2. It is much better than the IQ using my small TV. On the other hand though, the IQ displayed by my other TV which is a 32" 100Hz is at least equal to the P-signal using the monitor.

u can play SOME games in pro-scan even though they do not actually support pro-scan... or at least the european versions, like Burnout2 and Guilty Gear X2 (no pro-scan option in the PAL versions but they work fine in pro-scan mode using the Blaze VGA Adapter)

That's funny actually. I always thought Burnout2 had P-scan, but it doesn't. Heh, might have to get that Blaze VGA adapter.

the image quality difference between a monitor and even a very good 100Hz widescreen TV is pretty noticeable.... i have a 36" panasonic 100Hz widescreen TV and the interlacing artifacts are very noticeable compared to pro-scan goodness provided by my smaller LCD pro-scan display. it's like night and day. even the colours are much more vibrant in VGA mode, whereas they are more washed out and *muddier* on my 100hz TV even with good RGB inputs, which is the best way to connect a PS2 to an interlaced TV...
burnout2 pro-scan option was scrapped from the European version, as well as Guilty Gear X2. both looks MILES better on PRo-scan using the Blaze VGA Adapter than on my 100hz TV. Usually, the faster the game is, the more noticeable are the interlacing artifacts, especially during orizontal movement. in a game like Guilty Gear X2 (or any fighter really, tekken4 is another example) there are pretty much ONLY orizontal movements therefore the difference between the 2 outputs is more noticeable than racing games for example. in fact, thinking about it, Tekken 4 is another game which looks MIIIIIIIIIIILES better in Pro-scan. looks like the difference between... don't know... PS1 games and dreamcast games.... u know what i mean....

 

[Phil]

well london-boy, I can only speak for my equipment here and if you believe it or not, the difference is at best minor. Upon being close to the screen, I admit, a difference is vissible in sharpness. That's about the only difference I can spot though. Interlaced artefacts are very minimal on my TV btw, in fact, I can press pause while watching a DVD movie and the picture presented is as crisp and sharp as presented by my monitor. Of course turning up the sharpness would result in more aliasing and artefacts, I don't really have my TV on those settings anyway. Lives longer too.

BTW; speaking of artefacts, do you have white artefacts using P-scan aswell? Getaway has some on my monitor, especially when driving through the streets of london.