Gamestop prices for Xbox360 games

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Here is the link: http://www.gamestop.com/search.asp?...earchcount=12&statcd=&publisher=&esrb=&title=

Interesting things, the games that I'm interested in have a pre-release date of Nov.1:

Perfect Dark Zero
COD2
Dead or Alive 4
Elder Scrolls 4: Oblivion
PGR3
Quake 4
Battlefield 2:Modern Combat
Burnout: Revenge
Final Fantasy XI
Kameo
Spinter Cell 4
eNCHANT arM
Alan Wake
Blue Dragon
Dark Sector
Huxley
99 Nights
Ridge Racer 6
Prey

Ghost Recon 3: Dec. 1, 2005
Gears of Wars: March 1, 2006
Lost Odyssey: Jan. 1, 2006
Halo 3: June 1, 2006

If these games are $60 for the 360, isn't it safe to say that PS3 games will be more expensive, probably at $70? How will this impact PS3 game sales if it does indeed have a sticker price of $70 (thanks to Blu-Ray)? Discuss.

Edit: A couple of Wal-Mart's supposedly put early posters for the Xbox360 at $299.96
 
pso said:
If these games are $60 for the 360, isn't it safe to say that PS3 games will be more expensive, probably at $70? How will this impact PS3 game sales if it does indeed have a sticker price of $70 (thanks to Blu-Ray)? Discuss.
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I'm just going to go ahead and ask: Why do you think that PS3 games would be more expensive?

Before you answer, consider:

1) All initial PS3 titles will likely be on DVD

2) If and when they eventually do change over to blu-ray, the cost per disc would be a difference of several cents from DVD.

So yes I think $70 games would have a fairly severe effect when contrasted to a stable of $60 games - it's just I don't think PS3 games are going to cost $10 more than 360 games across the board (if ever).
 
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xbdestroya said:
I'm just going to go ahead and ask: Why do you think that PS3 games would be more expensive?
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Because of the new media format: Blu-Ray. If PS3 games are priced the same as the 360 games, I'll be surprised IMO.
 
I think we were both typing at the same time - refer to my expanded post above. :)
 
xbdestroya said:
I'm just going to go ahead and ask: Why do you think that PS3 games would be more expensive?

Before you answer, consider:

1) All initial PS3 titles will likely be on DVD

2) If and when they eventually do change over to blu-ray, the cost per disc would be a difference of several cents from DVD.

So yes I think $70 games would have a fairly severe effect when contrasted to a stable of $60 games - it's just I don't think PS3 games are going to cost $10 more than 360 games across the board (if ever).
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1. What's the point of having Blu-Ray if the games at launch are DVD? That's like MS releasing a HDD for the 360 at launch but yet no games take advantage of it. That's the point of PS3 right? To be a leap over any next-gen console in terms of technology. I think most gamers will be disappointed if PS3 games are still DVD at launch IMO. So how long do gamers have to wait for Sony to change over before we finally take advantage of blu-ray games?

2. Do you have a link stating the cost per disc will be a difference of several cents from DVD? Thanks.
 
xbxdestroya, Blu-Ray discs will costs upwards of $10 over the next 5 years I read in an article. While DVDs cost only a few cents to make. Sony has states [i/]over time, Blu-Ray will not be much more to make than DVDs. But they never list how long that will take.
 
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1. What's the point of having Blu-Ray if the games at launch are DVD? That's like MS releasing a HDD for the 360 at launch but yet no games take advantage of it. That's the point of PS3 right? To be a leap over any next-gen console in terms of technology. I think most gamers will be disappointed if PS3 games are still DVD at launch IMO. So how long do gamers have to wait for Sony to change over before we finally take advantage of blu-ray games?
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What can I say? PS2 games tended to come on CD for awhile at launch, so it will doubtless be the same this go around as well. The 'hook' of the blu-ray drive is supposedly the ability to play movies on blu-ray - the expanded space for games is something that will come into play later down the line.

2. Do you have a link stating the cost per disc will be a difference of several cents from DVD? Thanks.
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Well, the 'several cents' is my own extrapolation (DVD's only cost a couple of cents to make each en masse), but here's the link:

Link
 
Hardknock said:
xbxdestroya, Blu-Ray discs will costs upwards of $10 over the next 5 years I read in an article. While DVDs cost only a few cents to make. Sony has states [i/]over time, Blu-Ray will not be much more to make than DVDs. But they never list how long that will take.
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Hardknock I agree - but was that for writable discs or what; do you have the link? I remember when writable CD's were ~$10+ each, and when writable DVD's were even more. Yet as you know CD's and DVD's never reflected any such costs, because they were stamped; as would be any blu-ray movies or games produced.
 
There are way too many unknowns to really discuss the pricing


Those release dates sound off to me though. I really doubt Halo 2 will come out during the summer as its the slowest time of the year for sales. Also, Sakaguchi said his games will be released 1-2 years from launch (and this is for Japan) but Lost Odyssey is listed as 1 month from launch. I think Lost Odyssey is even supposed to be the latter of the two. I'm sure the dates are just placeholders anyway (and the prices for that matter).
 
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Off topic: Going by the pre-release dates for Xbox360 and PS3 games at GameStop, it seems 360 will probably come out in the first week of Nov. and the PS3 will be out in March 2006. :)
 
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http://hardware.gamespot.com/Story-ST-x-2077-x-x-x

Since there's virtually no plastic sitting between the data layer of a Blu-ray disc and the laser of the playback device, incoming light is not as distorted as it would be if a thicker layer was used on the bottom of the disc. This makes the laser beam incredibly accurate and allows for increased data density. But there is a price...literally. Manufacturing Blu-ray discs requires makers of current DVDs to completely overhaul their production lines, and the subsequent costs of doing so will be passed on to consumers. By most estimates, Blu-ray discs will cost at least $10 more than current-generation DVDs.
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That was found with a quick search, there are other articles out there on it aswell...
 
Hardknock said:
http://hardware.gamespot.com/Story-ST-x-2077-x-x-x



That was found with a quick search, there are other articles out there on it aswell...
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Well, one could find articles that support both sides of the argument quite readily. Gamespot I have very mixed feelings on when it comes to their coverage of actual technology itself.

Anyway as far as this article goes, what they are saying is that since 'the industry' will need to pay out in order to replace/upgrade all existing equipment, that the cost of movies on blu-ray will thus reflect that upgrade cost when sold to the consumer. And I agree to an extent. But they are certainly not implying that the cost to manufacture blu-ray discs will be in excess of $10 - not in the least.

And about the higher movie prices: maybe initially, but no differently than when DVD movies used to be priced comenserate with being a 'luxury good.' Of course, the DVD makers had to pay out back then as well in the first place in order to produce the DVDs - the 'threat' here with blu-ray is the notion that that entire process may need to be repeated.

It will be some time before games are regularly coming out on blu-ray, but by the time that day is upon us, I'm fairly certain that there will be no need to have any sort of 'media premium' worked into the cost of the discs. Sony themselves will probably provide the replication facilities, thus mooting the entire need to do so (mark up to recoup) should they choose to.

PS - I'm really not trying to get too deep into this; after a point I'm just speculating like everyone else. I just wanted to post my reasons for thinking why PS3 games would not cost $10 more than 360 games due to media alone, and provided my supports. That's all - no more, no less. :)
 
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Look if Blu-Ray ROMs cost $10 per unit to manufacture, the impact to retail price would be way more than $10.

And if that was the case, why would all these studios sign up to release titles on them? Why did EA commit to support BD-ROMs? These people aren't eager to sign on to something economically unsustainable.

As for game prices, yes I think some publishers will try to charge $60 and they're putting out feelers to see if there would be a revolt.

But the truth is, they're having harder and harder time getting people to pay $50 except for a handful of really hot titles. Most games end up being discounted after a couple of weeks unless they got legs like GT4 or GTA.

If gamers exercise restraint (or better yet, there's some grass-roots resistance like there was against DiVX, we could crush these $60 attempts), they will cut prices.

People have become conditioned to waiting a bit and picking up games cheaper than when they were initially released.
 
I thought that the PS3 was going to use the Blu-Ray for all their games. Not just to push their next format but to help curve the possability of any piracy etc. of upcoming games. Figure it will be awhile before there is a Blue-Ray recordable drive on the market at an affordable price.

Well now that I think about it forget what I said. Both consoles will probably be modded by the end of their first year if they do have HD and run linux :)
 
i wrote in my blog that multiplatformers will be on DVD on both sides but PS3 exclusives might or most likely be blu ray games which will cost more (development + BD recorders + Discs + New Package Design label boasting BD disc)
 
pso said:
Here is the link: http://www.gamestop.com/search.asp?...earchcount=12&statcd=&publisher=&esrb=&title=

Interesting things, the games that I'm interested in have a pre-release date of Nov.1:

Perfect Dark Zero
COD2
Dead or Alive 4
Elder Scrolls 4: Oblivion
PGR3
Quake 4
Battlefield 2:Modern Combat
Burnout: Revenge
Final Fantasy XI
Kameo
Splinter Cell 4
eNCHANT arM
Alan Wake
Blue Dragon
Dark Sector
Huxley
99 Nights
Ridge Racer 6
Prey

Ghost Recon 3: Dec. 1, 2005
Gears of Wars: March 1, 2006
Lost Odyssey: Jan. 1, 2006
Halo 3: June 1, 2006

If these games are $60 for the 360, isn't it safe to say that PS3 games will be more expensive, probably at $70? How will this impact PS3 game sales if it does indeed have a sticker price of $70 (thanks to Blu-Ray)? Discuss.

Edit: A couple of Wal-Mart's supposedly put early posters for the Xbox360 at $299.96
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Most of the titles listed there are TBA 2006.

Mistwalker is supposed to finish either Blue Dragon and/or Lost Odyssey 'within a year of the Xbox 360's launch in Japan'. This could very well be Q4 2006.

Halo 3 is rumored to be released next summer, but after all those delays we saw with Halo 2, I wouldn't be too surprised to see Halo 3 being delayed.

Splinter Cell 4, Prey, Huxley, Dark Sector and Alan Wake all are TBA 2006.

Ridge Racer 6, eNCHANT arM and Ninety Nine Nights are (very likely to be) Japanese launch titles, but we might only see them in the West in 2006.


From the remaining '2005 titles', only Dead or Alive 4 really catches my interest, and that's not even my favorite genre. Of course, 2006 looks a lot brighter, but then again there will be two more consoles fighting for my attention. I am definately getting a Xbox 360, but definately not this year.

And at $299.96, I really hope Microsoft will offer a similar pricepoint in Europe, because no one is going to pay up €500 like the previous time...
Also, $60 for a Xbox 360 game is cheaper than the €60 we have to pay in Europe for 'just' a Xbox game. PlayStation 2 games were €68 at one point (not all of them), but €70 - €80 euro's is really something only N64 did and could really put a 'stop' on software sales...
 
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I hope that you know that thoses price are simple placeholders.
 
Vysez said:
I hope that you know that thoses price are simple placeholders.
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I know, pricing is the only thing that is yet to be revealed, just complaining about our continent's likely treatment in advance. ;p
 
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