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Demon's Souls Remake [PS5]
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I don't know why everyone is so insistent on RT. Keep in mind that Unreal Engine won't be using it either and that also manages to look better than anything else, as does this game.
If you're RT or bust, then you'll be doing yourself and your games a disservice.
By the way, the PS5 is doing some of the most impressive RT shown so far as 4k@30hz. And yet THIS is the game we're all talking about saying it looks like the most impressive one in the launch line up.
If you're RT or bust, then you'll be doing yourself and your games a disservice.
By the way, the PS5 is doing some of the most impressive RT shown so far as 4k@30hz. And yet THIS is the game we're all talking about saying it looks like the most impressive one in the launch line up.
With virtualized geometry I have a big doubt it will use triangle RT maybe something like voxel or sdf reflection tracing.
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you'll be able to do standard rendering in UE, nanite is a part of the engine, devs will be able to use it or not.
Note the character in the demo was not rendered using nanite.
But then lumen already achieves awesome lighting.
I could see RT being used only for reflections.
Well, it looks incredible, RT or not!
Indeed. It's the dynamic lighting and shadows.
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Looks like article was updated:
"Q: Another word we've heard hundreds of times is ray tracing . Are we going to notice it so much? Lighting is a key element in Demon's Souls .
A: Indeed, one of the novelties is advanced lighting, now you will see more realistically when lightning hits a tree and sets it on fire. That is brand new and never existed in the original. Now we can do it because we have all that power with PS5. It's great. Demon's Souls for PlayStation 3 is an incredibly dark game. What we have done is, after evaluating the power of the PlayStation 5, we realize that we no longer had to activate or deactivate any light source, but we have been able to include light in real time thanks to advanced lighting techniques. So every aspect of the game lighting is in real time. It is dynamic. We have used the lighting as a way to guide the player through the levels, as little hints of where to go.
* We asked Sony about advanced lighting technique; apparently not Ray Tracing, but different. In the official blog it does appear as ray tracing. We await official confirmation to avoid a possible nomenclature confusion."
A: Indeed, one of the novelties is advanced lighting, now you will see more realistically when lightning hits a tree and sets it on fire. That is brand new and never existed in the original. Now we can do it because we have all that power with PS5. It's great. Demon's Souls for PlayStation 3 is an incredibly dark game. What we have done is, after evaluating the power of the PlayStation 5, we realize that we no longer had to activate or deactivate any light source, but we have been able to include light in real time thanks to advanced lighting techniques. So every aspect of the game lighting is in real time. It is dynamic. We have used the lighting as a way to guide the player through the levels, as little hints of where to go.
* We asked Sony about advanced lighting technique; apparently not Ray Tracing, but different. In the official blog it does appear as ray tracing. We await official confirmation to avoid a possible nomenclature confusion."
This is probably SVOGI, Voxel cone tracing or other form of GI.
Lumen of Unreal Engine 5 does not use triangle RT at all and it looks very good.
https://www.cryengine.com/news/view...-ray-traced-reflections-in-cryengine-and-more
Or later we will have hybrid voxel cone tracing and raytracing like in Cryengine
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In the end doesn’t it come down to a certain type of calculation that you can do and use to aid in the calculation of any surface to surface light transfer? It almost seems as if some people have started to consider reflections the only RT, but that is just ... ray traced (or partially ray traced) reflections. Surprisingly much of any kind of calculation in graphics comes down to tracing from a light source to a surface, including shadows, indirect lighting, etc, and even acoustics and hit detection aren’t that different, and in the end it’s all about how many of those traces you can do before you can realistically start to employ them for more and more complex tasks.
Certainly real-time lighting is a very important calculation whereas reflective surfaces aren’t actually that common in for instance nature, especially when there hasn’t been rain etc.
So in a sense talking about RT support in hardware I think is confusing some people, and I wouldn’t be surprised if even some of those people work for PR departments and so on
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Certainly real-time lighting is a very important calculation whereas reflective surfaces aren’t actually that common in for instance nature, especially when there hasn’t been rain etc.
So in a sense talking about RT support in hardware I think is confusing some people, and I wouldn’t be surprised if even some of those people work for PR departments and so on
.In the end doesn’t it come down to a certain type of calculation that you can do and use to aid in the calculation of any surface to surface light transfer? It almost seems as if some people have started to consider reflections the only RT, but that is just ... ray traced (or partially ray traced) reflections. Surprisingly much of any kind of calculation in graphics comes down to tracing from a light source to a surface, including shadows, indirect lighting, etc, and even acoustics and hit detection aren’t that different, and in the end it’s all about how many of those traces you can do before you can realistically start to employ them for more and more complex tasks.
Certainly real-time lighting is a very important calculation whereas reflective surfaces aren’t actually that common in for instance nature, especially when there hasn’t been rain etc.
So in a sense talking about RT support in hardware I think is confusing some people, and I wouldn’t be surprised if even some of those people work for PR departments and so on
Yes we have advance ligthing everything is dynamic, PR guy they have raytracing.
It seems the optimization for going from 1440p 60 fps to dynamic 4k 60 fps is very recent:
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There also seems to be some sort of filter that makes it look like the PS3 game, I read somewhere?
Yes you can choose a filter to have the same color grading than the PS3 game.
I think RT reflections can dramatically move graphics into next gen. It’s really a question of how much it’s implemented. In the real world everything is reflected, it’s how we see. If you have a solid PBR setup and you apply RT reflections to nearly all surfaces you’re going to approach a more much life like look than just applying to mirror reflections.In the end doesn’t it come down to a certain type of calculation that you can do and use to aid in the calculation of any surface to surface light transfer? It almost seems as if some people have started to consider reflections the only RT, but that is just ... ray traced (or partially ray traced) reflections. Surprisingly much of any kind of calculation in graphics comes down to tracing from a light source to a surface, including shadows, indirect lighting, etc, and even acoustics and hit detection aren’t that different, and in the end it’s all about how many of those traces you can do before you can realistically start to employ them for more and more complex tasks.
Certainly real-time lighting is a very important calculation whereas reflective surfaces aren’t actually that common in for instance nature, especially when there hasn’t been rain etc.
So in a sense talking about RT support in hardware I think is confusing some people, and I wouldn’t be surprised if even some of those people work for PR departments and so on
As we move deeper into RT as a norm, combined with improvements to PBR there should be a noticeable advancement from this gen.
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Yes otherwise it was kinda stupid from MS, Sony, AMD, NV and even mobile to start implementing it. I can see for consoles its rather limited and compromises have to be made there if used, its atleast a start.
