You can train the unemployed as well as you want in an attempt to lead them out of poverty, but there's nothing for them to do that people will pay for.
They trained 500 florists in my city last year, there are only 30 flower shops in the city..
You can train the unemployed as well as you want in an attempt to lead them out of poverty, but there's nothing for them to do that people will pay for.
It was a nice debate but I can see I'm not making any traction. Later
Ugh, more ignorant presumption.
You don't hire policemen or firemen to handle average load. You hire them to handle peak load. You have to have a certain number of policemen in each area ready for action, because they can't respond to an emergency 20 miles away with any immediacy. Moreover, there are certain situations that need many cops responding quickly which we don't want to ignore, like major robberies, riots/mobs, long blackouts affecting traffic, large fires, natural disasters, etc. All these things happen rarely but need prompt action from an immediately available and sizeable workforce.
No matter how many policemen, firemen, or medical personnel you hire, there will always be some events that require more manpower than is available. The question is how often you want that happening.
Well, you should be worrying about that, cops or not. Less enforced rules doesn't mean less responsibility.We could actually live in peace and not have to worry about your head lights or tail lights working or not ...
Well, you should be worrying about that, cops or not. Less enforced rules doesn't mean less responsibility.
so benefits that you get are fine but others are unacceptable, right?I dunno . I'm unemployeed and don't mind getting benfits or others getting them. We did work and put money into unemployment. its welfare and a bunch of other stupid socialest programs i get tired off
If it's such a cushy job then why don't you become one? The funny thing is that your argument doesn't refute mine in the least, particularly because you said that you're fine with older cops not getting canned (as am I).Sorry this is bullshit.
You hire cops and then because of unions you can't get rid of them.
Prove it. Do you know how much of non-defense US federal spending goes to its employees? Under 10%. The rest either goes to whomever is receiving benefits or to the private sector to provide a service/good. You could chop their salaries in half (which, aside from being just plain callous, would send ripple effects into private sector wages, too) and someone paying $10k of taxes would only save $950.We could cut our goverment down to 33% of what it spends now and still be fine and everyone would be richer.
Again, you completely glossed over the central point. It's about capacity.As for needing more cops. Cops in my town and in others now sit in their car while telcos and other companys fix wires. You can hiire someone for minimum wage to redirect the traffic instead of paying a cop over time to do it.
If your paying into something and then at some point need to take back from it , its fine to me.so benefits that you get are fine but others are unacceptable, right?
Welfare is broken and there are such things as generational welfare. At some point I can't stay on unemployment. You can stay on welfare your whole life.Welfare is basically the same thing as unemployment benefits. If you're earning money you don't get it (or don't get much), but if you're not then you do for a certain amount of time. It's just tweaked to give more or less help to people based on various criteria.
There are many things that older cops can still do. Dective work , paper work , training and so on.If it's such a cushy job then why don't you become one? The funny thing is that your argument doesn't refute mine in the least, particularly because you said that you're fine with older cops not getting canned (as am I).
Its not the older cops writing tickets , its the younger cops writing tickets. Older cops don't sit on highways in patrol cars. Older cops are the dectives and sergents and chiefs.You need a certain capacity of young cops to handle our emergencies. Young cops get older with time, and you and I both agree that they should be given employment. So where's the bullshit? The ticket-writing time at older ages is the same as the time between emergencies at a younger age, and both are hard linked to the emergency capacity that they provided at that younger age.
. But do we need emergency capacity ? What emergencys do we need to address in small town america ?We cannot have emergency capacity without having to pay for a bunch of dead time
Ever think that we don't need the service or good or those receiving benefits don't really need them. We could cut spending easily.Prove it. Do you know how much of non-defense US federal spending goes to its employees? Under 10%. The rest either goes to whomever is receiving benefits or to the private sector to provide a service/good. You could chop their salaries in half (which, aside from being just plain callous, would send ripple effects into private sector wages, too) and someone paying $10k of taxes would only save $950.
Again, you completely glossed over the central point. It's about capacity.
If you want less ability to handle emergencies, less patroling of the streets to discourage crime or dangerous driving, and want police to take a longer time to get to respond to a call, just say so.
What I want doesn't matter. I can't change the speed limit. I have no say in anything.If you want higher speed limits, just say so, but it's not the cops fault that the limits are set where they are. If you can't control your car speed, drive slower or pay more attention. If you want to avoid the low probability of getting caught for going 5 mph over the limit, then don't drive that fast.
If cops stop ticketing minor speeding altogether, people would drive faster. If they stopped giving parking tickets, people would illegally park more often. If they stopped giving jaywalking tickets, people would jaywalk more (which I'm fine with if no car is within a few hundred feet, but that change requires legislation).