ATI X600 and X300 officially announced?

[Bjorn]

hmmm... so what's the earliest Ati could put out a ps 3.0/ sm 3.0 card? next spring maybe? longer? I was a bit optimistic before that it would be within a year, but now I think it could be as bad as next fall.

Why would they want to put out a sm 3.0 card ?

I believe they are going to jump strait to sm 4.0

sm 3.0 will be as important as p.s 1.4 is .

Ati is going to have to do a very large step if they want to move directly to SM4.0. It would be great if they did though since the X-Box 2 would probably make sure that we would get very early support for that featureset. Much like an X-Box 2 with SM3.0 would establish support for that featureset.

But i doubt it, cause they then need to move to FP32 as minimum, add support for SM4.0 AND also make a card that's a lot faster then the R420 at the same time. How many million transistors would that take, 350 ? And i just wonder when that kind of chip will be feasible to manufacture taking into account the problems we're seeing with the manufacturing processes.

 

[Crusher]

At least the X300 supports PS/VS 2.0, though between only supporting 64-bit/128-bit DDR1 and the 4 pipelines, it will probably be about as fast as a FX5200. Since they're so worried about the perceived performance of their cards that they don't want to allow the user to force full trilinear in the control panel, they should probably remove the 4x/6x FSAA and 8x/16x anisotropic settings from the drivers for these cards

 

[jvd]

At least the X300 supports PS/VS 2.0, though between only supporting 64-bit/128-bit DDR1 and the 4 pipelines, it will probably be about as fast as a FX5200. Since they're so worried about the perceived performance of their cards that they don't want to allow the user to force full trilinear in the control panel, they should probably remove the 4x/6x FSAA and 8x/16x anisotropic settings from the drivers for these cards

Na they should leave the functions there but have a "bug" that stops you from actually turning them on

 

[Pete]

though between only supporting 64-bit/128-bit DDR1 and the 4 pipelines, it will probably be about as fast as a FX5200.

Well, the 64-bit X300, probably, but the 128-bit one should be much faster than a 5200 (as the 9600 is).

X600(RV380) and X300(RV370) doesn't support 3Dc, PS2.0b or any features from X800.

X600 may support 3Dc, if the Comdex card under that GeCube X600 is correct.

 

[whql]

At least the X300 supports PS/VS 2.0, though between only supporting 64-bit/128-bit DDR1 and the 4 pipelines, it will probably be about as fast as a FX5200.

As far as I remember nvidia dumped any bandwidth saving schemes for 5200, however that doesn't appear the case with x300, so even the 64-bit has more potential than 5200 (plus, its no secret what 5200's like with anything that uses dx9).

Since they're so worried about the perceived performance of their cards that they don't want to allow the user to force full trilinear in the control panel

Perhaps they are just taking their cues from the so called graphics "leader".