April Fool's from DICE regards Wii U *spawn

repi said:
Frostbite is indeed fully separate from DICE nowadays, we even have our own office and we work with _a lot_ of teams within EA.

And no I will not comment about the tweets.
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Given the significant number of games that are rolling out with the engine, I suppose the amount of work and support for the engine makes it a business in its own right.

I don't want to belabor my impressions of this incident more than already have. I'm probably not really adding anything to the debate now.
I recognize that the situation is unfortunate, and I do hope things will get better soon.
 
Oh boy...it was just a joke (and quite a good one...as is the Wuu). Moore probably is following a strategy behind this...or is just again bullshiting like back in the days he claimed PS3 to be a waste of time...
 
Sonic said:
As doubtful as it is that Wii U will hit 12 million units sold by the end of 2014 I don't think this little April Fool's joke would hurt the relationship in the long term. At this point Nintendo could use all the help it could get and if the company had proper business sense they'd be courting EA to make games.
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I actually see it being very possible. Between Mario Kart 8 and Smash Bros, if there were to ever be a year where Nintendo sold a decent amount of units, it will be this year. Lets face it, six million units in a year isn't exactly a stellar year in the console business, so its not really all that far fetched considering two of Nintendo's biggest sellers are coming out in the same year.

I disagree about EA, its EA that stands to lose the most if Wii U sales do take off later this year. EA games haven't helped sell Nintendo hardware in a very long time. Wii U launched with Madden, Fifa, Mass Effect 3, and then got NFS MW a few months later, none of these titles sold people on buying Nintendo hardware. EA's support has very little influence on the success of a Nintendo console, but that doesn't mean EA cant make a lot of profit on Nintendo hardware. The majority of their profits back in 2007 and 2008 came from the Wii. Wii wasn't a huge success because of EA, but that didn't stop EA from making a ton of cash on the console.
 
Dr Evil said:
Lol...That is hilariously wrong. More like 10-15% of their revenue was from the Wii and that's less than 360, PS3 or PC individually on any of those years...
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Yes, it was always less of the "revenue", but EA had stated that their "profitability" was better on Wii. I will try to find the article, but EA definitely talked about moving more focus onto Wii because it was very profitable.
 
Goodtwin said:
Yes, it was always less of the "revenue", but EA had stated that their "profitability" was better on Wii. I will try to find the article, but EA definitely talked about moving more focus onto Wii because it was very profitable.
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I'm sure they at least wanted to have big focus there as Wii had such a great hardware sales and EA probably did make a nice buck on a few simple Wii titles, but I'm quite certain that Wii being the biggest contributor to their bottom line is very inaccurate, and the link under don't really make it seem like it was all roses with the Wii for them.

http://www.cnet.com/news/ea-chief-the-wii-is-weaker-than-anticipated/
 
Dr Evil said:
I'm sure they at least wanted to have big focus there as Wii had such a great hardware sales and EA probably did make a nice buck on a few simple Wii titles, but I'm quite certain that Wii being the biggest contributor to their bottom line is very inaccurate, and the link under don't really make it seem like it was all roses with the Wii for them.

http://www.cnet.com/news/ea-chief-the-wii-is-weaker-than-anticipated/
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I think your right. I must have been mistaking EA's decision to make a big push on Wii back in late 2007/2008, but it doesn't seem like they got the return they were looking for. My mistake, I was wrong.
 
dobwal said:
No reason to kick someone when they're down.
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They are "down" due to complacency, people "kicking" them should drive them to be competitive again.

Although this is Nintendo we are talking about, i wouldn't be surprised if they stick their head in the sand until the last minute.
 
Wynix said:
They are "down" due to complacency, people "kicking" them should drive them to be competitive again.

Although this is Nintendo we are talking about, i wouldn't be surprised if they stick their head in the sand until the last minute.
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True, and as a Nintendo fan its super frustrating. Its like their fans are more concerned than they are. That seems pretty backwards, but if Nintendo isn't actively making moves and striking deals for exclusive software for the following few years, Wii U will be a dead stick pretty quickly. Obviously its not been doing great so far, but I am talking off the retailers shelves in 2015 if Nintendo doesn't improve the Wii U's situation.
 
Sorry, I'm no fan of Nintendo or anyone else. But this kind of thing just isn't chic and simply shows how part of the games industry is still mostly run by insolent, immature geeks who have little idea how to behave. In public and in business.
 
There's Richard Branson too, basically the same kind of persona, although he's not strictly in the tech business. He just operates machinery created by it (airplanes, and now, spaceplanes also.)
 
Davros said:
Wouldnt you rather have those type of people over dull as dishwater suits ?
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(((interference))) said:
Definitely and ironically enough, basically all the big, tech industry heavyweights are these kind of 'immature, insolent geeks' eg. Zuckerberg, Jobs, Gates, Brin, Page, Musk etc
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Grall said:
There's Richard Branson too, basically the same kind of persona, although he's not strictly in the tech business. He just operates machinery created by it (airplanes, and now, spaceplanes also.)
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They're exactly where they need to be to be successful. And perhaps they wouldn't be as successful if they weren't. Still, immature and insolent geeks.
I wouldn't call Gates, Jobs and a few other 'immature and insolent' in the same way. They would never even have had the time for an April's fool joke.
 
Shifty's Bitch said:
I wouldn't call Gates, Jobs and a few other 'immature and insolent' in the same way. They would never even have had the time for an April's fool joke.
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The federal judge who ordered Microsoft split in two last year compares Bill Gates to Napoleon even musing that the company founder should be required to write a book report on him and said Microsoft executives behave like children.

"I think he has a Napoleonic concept of himself and his company, an arrogance that derives from power and unalloyed success, with no leavening hard experience, no reverses," Judge Thomas Penfield Jackson says of Gates in the Jan. 8 issue of The New Yorker.

Of company officials, Jackson says, "They don't act like grown-ups!"
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http://lubbockonline.com/stories/010901/sci_010901061.shtml

And Jobs, well i'm not sure where to begin:
Steve wept. And unlike Jesus, who famously wept over the death of Lazarus and the fate of Jerusalem, Jobs cried over just about everything. He cried at the beginning of Apple after Woz's father pushed his son to take more ownership of the company because he thought Jobs wasn't doing much work. Jobs went over to Woz's home and bawled his eyes out. Woz kept him on.

Jobs cried when his employee badge said #2 instead of #1 (which went to Woz), then ended up getting badge #0. He cried when Apple pushed him out of the company. He cried at Pixar during a battle with Disney. He cried when Time put the Mac on its cover instead of him. He cried when he saw the famous Apple "1984" ad for the first time. He cried about Windows "copying" the Mac.

He cried over design questions, like when the iMac team put a tray-based CD drive in the machine rather than a slot-loading drive. He cried over deep issues of personal privacy, such as the moment his cancer first became public and shareholders were braying for information. He cried because he wanted the original Apple II to have a one-year warranty, rather than 90 days.
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http://arstechnica.com/apple/2011/11/why-steve-jobs-cried/
 
I'm not surprised at all. Executive-type peoples' personalities are often emotionally disturbed in some way or another. Unfortunately, it helps to be ruthless, self-glorifying and self-centered to be a company leader.
 
I don't see the issue. I like Nintendo as much as the next guy. But its no secret that they are a joke not just in the industry, but to many consumers as well. And, a lot of it has to do with Nintendo own attitude for years and years. They deserve to get ribbed like this based on their own actions.
 
(((interference))) said:
Definitely and ironically enough, basically all the big, tech industry heavyweights are these kind of 'immature, insolent geeks' eg. Zuckerberg, Jobs, Gates, Brin, Page, Musk etc
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Problem is, you are posting a list of people who started their own companies and who could afford to be asses because of they were the heads. And most of the immaturity and insolence is probably a sign of their youth versus their genius.

Furthermore, the further you go down the corporate ladder the less those behaviors are readily accepted never mind encouraged.

I rather have the employees of the companies that service my gaming habits be known for being smart, team oriented, hardworking, well compensated and level headed not a bunch of jackasses. Apple isn't Apple because everybody is like Steve Jobs. The company would of probably imploded a long time ago.

The moment your CEO publicly reprimands you is the moment you need to file your actions in the "not so good ideal" folder and move on.
 
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