Anyone see the real brief clips of Next-Gen Madden?

wco81

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The NFL Network has a 30-minute special on the making of Madden. They ran it several times yesterday and will probably run it more for the next week.

At the very end of the special, they show some clips which hadn't been seen before. Looks cleaner and higher-res than the current gen game. Brief clips of Shaun Alexander of the Seattle Seahawks.

Doesn't have the glossed-out look of the commercial with the Giants and the Eagles.

I'm sure someone will post the clips or at least some screen shots soon.

What gets me is one of the producers saying they intend to use the power of the next-gen partly to accurately model each seat in every stadia and have 3D crowds. Kind of let down by that, as the stadia and crowd are rarely-seen background objects. Of course, there's only so much detail they can display at regular gameplay camera angles because they have to be zoomed out.

Could they be using a lot of the power for all these background objects (they will probably only have them in cut-scenes) at the sacrifice of better physics and AI? There's always been some skepticism about how much EA Sports pushes the technology, compared to other genres of games.

If EA Sports repeats what they did this generation, which is to develop the basic engine for the first release and then tweak every year but not rewrite until the next gen, then they may never exploit all 3 cores/6 threads of the X360 or the SPEs in the Cell.

One of the EA guys said they aspire to have the biggest game out there, not just the biggest sports game. They sure have a huge staff, with one guy dedicated to just capturing details of the stadia, a couple of people who just write scripts for the commentary, etc. But they don't seem to push the technology or at least push the technology in the right direction.
 
_leech_ said:
Not going to register at some forum for pics :p

arrggghh..I hate that...I really want to see though (I play a good amount of Madden from time to time with Friends and cousins)...blah...I'll bite. Thats what Hotmail is for I guess...

EDIT: God...what a letdown, it DOES look like a higher res Xbox/PS2/GameCube Madden. If they really do what there going to do with the stadium....then there not really focusing on what is most important...the player models. After seeing the "Fight Night DEMO", you would think that they could bust out with something better. I hope it comes out better then its looking now.....unless those images don't do the game justice.

Also, its going to be hard for Madden to really up the look of the game. You can make the game look really good when you cut to the players getting up...and moving around, but honestly...that gets old after a little while (and if you play alot, you tend to skip those animation sequences).

Honestly, EA has to revamp the actual gameplay mechanics, to something new and fresh. The Quarterbacks Awareness feature sounds cool. Also i'm thinking that they should do something new with the camera angles. The regular drop down angle (standard Madden Cam) is kinda old....I want a really useful camera angle that shows off the eye candy...but is also usable.
 
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Didn't realize they required registration.

Tried to copy the link from the actual attachments, hoping they linked to the site where they hosted them, instead of linking to the forum where they were posted.

EDIT: Looks like those links are dead.

If anyone wants to bother to register, it's on pages 5 and 6 of this thread:

http://forums.operationsports.com/vBulletin/showthread.php?t=135832&page=5&pp=10

Otherwise, I'm sure someone will post them to the Xbox forums too.
 
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Someone on the board actually uploaded a video. I'm not to sure about how they deal with links like that so I won't post it...unless somebody lets me know otherwise. If you want to check it out...I guess you'll have to register..lol..like I had to...

~_~,

EDIT: I just watched the uploaded video..and I have to say i'm very unimpressed with what is shown so far. They obviously added more animations but they models and the animation look like they did on XBOX/PS2/GAMECUBE. Although the lighting seems much better.

I give it (so far) thumbs down. I would give it a actual thumbs down icon..but I don't know how to do that on these boards o.o
 
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Yeah it's not the same even as the commercial.

The closeup of Michael Strahan's eye is I think when your looking at your rosters.

So it might be a photo for all we know.

If the graphics are underwhelming for this first release, all you can hope is that they really gear up and try to improve in future releases.

But if their history is any guide, they won't drastically rewrite their engine.
 
meh , i will wait for sega to make a game . Ea really sucks in terms of graphics . It takes them a while into the gen to get them looking good
 
I can't believe you guys are complaining about the models

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wtf are you guys expecting?

Here is a shot from the CG commercial for comparison

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and Madden 06 on ps2

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jvd said:
the second shot is def cgi .

I said as much. It is from the CG commercial

The first shot could be realtime as its not very impressive

The first shot is realtime, from the same demo that was shown on TV, though that part wasn't shown. How are the CG players any more impressive?
 
the first character isn't impressive. I've watched the trailer and it looks like the ps2 version with higher res textures and more geomtry . I'm expecting more out of next gen than that
 
jvd said:
the first character isn't impressive.
You already said that. Are you saying the second characters aren't either?

I've watched the trailer and it looks like the ps2 version with higher res textures and more geomtry.
:LOL: The CG Trailer? Higher res textures and more geometry, eh? What exactly are they supposed to add to the characters? If you aren't just talking about the players, I don't believe you watched the trailer. That, or you've never played the PS2 game.

I'm expecting more out of next gen than that

Like?
 
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You already said that. Are you saying the second characters aren't either?
the second characters are cgi thier clothes move better , there is snow and much much more detail in everything . This has nothing to do with the new game . Only the top one does . Why bring it up is beyond my understanding as its cgi and not a game

The CG Trailer? Higher res textures and more geometry, eh? What exactly are they supposed to add to the characters? If you aren't just talking about the players, I don't believe you watched the trailer. That, or you've never played the PS2 game.
i'm talking about the real time footage in that clip posted in this thread . Cgi isn't the game . Why are you comparing the ps2 game to cgi ? I'm comparing it to what they are saying is real time in this clip that aired on the football network
 
jvd said:
the second characters are cgi thier clothes move better

:LOL: more evidence you didn't even watch the CG trailer. The clothes don't move at all. Why did you make that up?

there is snow
:LOL: Talk about reaching. Do you really think the final game won't have snow? A feature that has been in every madden for the past decade? It doesn't snow every day you know.

and much much more detail in everything
I'm talking about the players.

This has nothing to do with the new game . Only the top one does . Why bring it up is beyond my understanding as its cgi and not a game
It was brought up earlier in the thread. Its a target render. I brought it up again to illustrate that the final players look just as good (if not better).

i'm talking about the real time footage in that clip posted in this thread .
That isn't a trailer.

Cgi isn't the game . Why are you comparing the ps2 game to cgi ?

I'm not. I'm comparing the realtime shot (first pic) to the CG (second pic) and the PS2 game (third pic) since you all claim they didn't improve the character models. My point being that the realtime players look just as good as the cg players and both look a hell of a lot better than the PS2 players.

I'm comparing it to what they are saying is real time

so am I
 
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top pic has some really good parts, like look at those hands! And the fabric on his uniform is awesome.

But they CAN'T DRAW AN ARM!!! They went and ruined the entire model with that goofy bump-arm...
 
scooby_dooby said:
top pic has some really good parts, like look at those hands! And the fabric on his uniform is awesome.

But they CAN'T DRAW AN ARM!!! They went and ruined the entire model with that goofy bump-arm...

Yeah, the more i'm looking at the top picture..the more i'm likeing it. I want to see some in game shots though (when your actually in formation controlling the players). Theres no doubt that the animation sequences will look purty though.
 
scooby_dooby said:
top pic has some really good parts, like look at those hands! And the fabric on his uniform is awesome.

But they CAN'T DRAW AN ARM!!! They went and ruined the entire model with that goofy bump-arm...

Yeah, the arm looks messed up in that shot, but it looks fine in motion. Every still I take of it looks off though.
 
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