512 bit memory bus is here :)

DaveBaumann said:
OICAspork said:
=D Does all this info you are sharing by any chance coincide with an immanent review/preview of the card?
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Nothing on the horizon just yet unfortunatly.
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I don't suppose random college student giving them a call on your behalf would help. :(
 
So, we here are speaking of aggregated 512bit bus? Each VPU has its own 256Bit bus, and together they can make an 'illusion' of 512bit bus? Or am I wrong?
 
Sunday said:
So, we here are speaking of aggregated 512bit bus? Each VPU has its own 256Bit bus, and together they can make an 'illusion' of 512bit bus? Or am I wrong?
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depends on how they handle the dual gpu interface I guess
 
The Realizm 100 and 200 have 32 GB/s.

The 3 chip Realizm 800 has AFAIK 16 GB/s for the VSU,
and 32 GB/s for each of the VPUs.

It should scale well as the rasterisation is tiled and there
appears to be a bus for exchanging tiles between the VPUs
to get them to the right DACs. At least that's what the diagram
appeared to show.

FWIW the Realizm 800 has a fair chance of beating the
Quadro FX 4000 on all the key CAD/CAM/CAE benchmarks,
in fact I think it'll be a while before Nvidia has a faster product.
Though Nvidia could be very agressive with pricing if they
wished.

I'd love to know how good the GLSL support is.
 
glw said:
The Realizm 100 and 200 have 32 GB/s.

The 3 chip Realizm 800 has AFAIK 16 GB/s for the VSU,
and 32 GB/s for each of the VPUs.
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Is it the VSU that has access to directburst then I take it?
 
remind them that Beyond3D is becomming more and more popular at CGTalk.com ;)

thanks to yours truely :D
 
Sage said:
remind them that Beyond3D is becomming more and more popular at CGTalk.com ;)

thanks to yours truely :D
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God why oh why have you foresaken us with Sage. LOL :p ( Just joking had to take a crack at you after that comment ).


I'm glad to see such a competitive product come out of 3dlabs I was a bit dissapointed with the specs of the previous generation. Then again I can't afford a X800 let alone a workstation board.
 
bloodbob said:
Surely very Large scenes ( distance wise ) tend to go crazy with single precision FP.
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If you have all your objects stored in their own local coordinate systems, then there should not be any problems with very large scenes and single precision.
 
Simon F said:
AFAIU it's got two rendering chips so I suppose each of those has a 256bit bus.
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That's my opinion too.

:me thinking: I don't uderstand why they disabled the VS units on the two 150mil tr chips. Waste of transistors. They could have designed a separate chip for the realizm800 realocating the unused transistors to embedded ram (i think P10 had, not sure tho).
 
Simon F said:
bloodbob said:
Surely very Large scenes ( distance wise ) tend to go crazy with single precision FP.
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If you have all your objects stored in their own local coordinate systems, then there should not be any problems with very large scenes and single precision.
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The objects are stored with FP32 precision anyway. But you have to transform all vertices into one common space eventually, so FP36 precision might give slightly better results.
 
Xmas said:
Simon F said:
bloodbob said:
Surely very Large scenes ( distance wise ) tend to go crazy with single precision FP.
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If you have all your objects stored in their own local coordinate systems, then there should not be any problems with very large scenes and single precision.
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The objects are stored with FP32 precision anyway. But you have to transform all vertices into one common space eventually, so FP36 precision might give slightly better results.
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I was not suggesting that each individual object use the full range of FP precision but, instead, only use a relatively small subset.

A base translation vector, for positioning each object, can be stored at double precision. Similarly, the camera location would also use doubles. When the SW sets up the local->camera transformation it can take the differences and convert these back to single precision. If an object is near the camera you still have "full" precision. If, OTOH, it's a long way off the precision drops but that doesn't matter.
 
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