VMR9 windowed (strange behavour)

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CruNcher

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HI i have a very strange Problem with VMR9 windowed on a Windows XP system

Operating System: Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 3 (2600.xpsp.080413-2111)
GFX: Geforce 8800 GT (G92 512mb) Forceware 178.15
Processor: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4200+, MMX, 3DNow (2 CPUs), ~2.2GHz
DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904)

My problem is that with a VMR9 windowed surface i experience strange Kernel Peaking on Video Playback (exactly when CPU peaks) this causes frame drops (stutter motion).
I already tried different Nvidia Driver rev 169.02,175.19,178.13,178.15 it's always the same though VMR7 surfaces work without these problems (many software uses VMR9 by default) i don't think it is a hardware problem i think more in the direction of either Nvidias Driver or Microsoft DirectX but im not sure.

Strange is when i move another Window above the VMR9 surface or minimize it the Kernel Peaks go away (so if Video output isn't being displayed no Kernel Peaks)

And yeah i didn't have this problem before but im not sure when it came into play my guess now is it might appeared after one of the DirectX monthly updates (as i tried different Nvidia driver already).

I also tried disabling many of the device driver but it doesn't make it any better (Onboard Sound ect).
Maybe someone else is experience the same Phenomenon currently on his 8800 GT on XP with VMR9 and latest DirectX.

The Picture shows it from Mplayer Classic Home Cinema though the Peaking also appears with any other application that uses VMR9 windowed as output renderer.

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Have you tried the Haali renderer? Just to find out if it's a renderer problem or something else?
 
in media player classic
view -- options -- playback -- output

can you post a screenshot of your settings

ps: what does vmr9(renderless) mean ?

and how do I bring up the properties in your screenshot
 
Hi and thx to everyone it actually turned out to be a performance problem on my side tough im not sure if it's a bug (hardware config problem,bios) or caused by VMR9 nature but the performance drawback is really heavy


Code: 
VMR7 Windowed


 /==============================\
<         KERNRATE LOG           >
 \==============================/
Date: 2008/11/07   Time: 20:25:13
Machine Name: WINXP-NG
Number of Processors: 2
PROCESSOR_ARCHITECTURE: x86
PROCESSOR_LEVEL: 15
PROCESSOR_REVISION: 2302
Physical Memory: 1024 MB
Pagefile Total: 2459 MB
Virtual Total: 2047 MB
PageFile1: \??\C:\pagefile.sys, 1534MB
OS Version: 5.1 Build 2600 Service-Pack: 3.0
WinDir: C:\WINDOWS

Kernrate User-Specified Command Line:
Kernrate_i386_XP.exe


Kernel Profile (PID = 0): Source= Time,
Using Kernrate Default Rate of 25000 events/hit
Starting to collect profile data

***> Press ctrl-c to finish collecting profile data
===> Finished Collecting Data, Starting to Process Results

------------Overall Summary:--------------

P0     K 0:00:02.656 ( 1.7%)  U 0:00:30.015 (18.8%)  I 0:02:06.875 (79.5%)  DPC
0:00:00.718 ( 0.5%)  Interrupt 0:00:00.078 ( 0.0%)
       Interrupts= 234725, Interrupt Rate= 1471/sec.

P1     K 0:00:04.109 ( 2.6%)  U 0:00:15.890 (10.0%)  I 0:02:19.546 (87.5%)  DPC
0:00:02.218 ( 1.4%)  Interrupt 0:00:00.375 ( 0.2%)
       Interrupts= 103591, Interrupt Rate= 649/sec.

TOTAL  K 0:00:06.765 ( 2.1%)  U 0:00:45.906 (14.4%)  I 0:04:26.421 (83.5%)  DPC
0:00:02.937 ( 0.9%)  Interrupt 0:00:00.453 ( 0.1%)
       Total Interrupts= 338316, Total Interrupt Rate= 2120/sec.


Total Profile Time = 159546 msec

                                       BytesStart          BytesStop         Byt
esDiff.
    Available Physical Memory   ,       686166016,       676294656,        -9871
360
    Available Pagefile(s)       ,      2168889344,      2162556928,        -6332
416
    Available Virtual           ,      2132496384,      2131447808,        -1048
576
    Available Extended Virtual  ,               0,               0,
  0

                                  Total      Avg. Rate
    Context Switches     ,       308367,         1933/sec.
    System Calls         ,       853797,         5351/sec.
    Page Faults          ,        76821,         481/sec.
    I/O Read Operations  ,        11344,         71/sec.
    I/O Write Operations ,           51,         0/sec.
    I/O Other Operations ,         7678,         48/sec.
    I/O Read Bytes       ,     90004740,         7934/ I/O
    I/O Write Bytes      ,       107237,         2103/ I/O
    I/O Other Bytes      ,       152822,         20/ I/O

-----------------------------

Results for Kernel Mode:
-----------------------------

OutputResults: KernelModuleCount = 113
Percentage in the following table is based on the Total Hits for the Kernel

Time   107672 hits, 25000 events per hit --------
 Module                                Hits   msec  %Total  Events/Sec
AmdK8                                102058     159546    94 %    15991939
ntkrnlpa                               2269     159546     2 %      355540
hal                                    1358     159546     1 %      212791
ALCXWDM                                 715     159546     0 %      112036
nv4_disp                                506     159546     0 %       79287
win32k                                  410     159546     0 %       64244
nv4_mini                                192     159546     0 %       30085
dxg                                      48     159546     0 %        7521
portcls                                  33     159546     0 %        5170
jraid                                    13     159546     0 %        2037
ks                                       11     159546     0 %        1723
watchdog                                  8     159546     0 %        1253
Ntfs                                      8     159546     0 %        1253
sysaudio                                  6     159546     0 %         940
VIDEOPRT                                  6     159546     0 %         940
rdbss                                     5     159546     0 %         783
tcpip                                     5     159546     0 %         783
SbieDrv                                   3     159546     0 %         470
eamon                                     2     159546     0 %         313
TfSysMon                                  2     159546     0 %         313
TfFsMon                                   2     159546     0 %         313
sr                                        2     159546     0 %         313
CLASSPNP                                  2     159546     0 %         313
SCSIPORT                                  2     159546     0 %         313
ftdisk                                    2     159546     0 %         313
TDI                                       1     159546     0 %         156
USBPORT                                   1     159546     0 %         156
disk                                      1     159546     0 %         156
ACPI                                      1     159546     0 %         156

================================= END OF RUN ==================================
============================== NORMAL END OF RUN ==============================

VMR9 Windowed


 /==============================\
<         KERNRATE LOG           >
 \==============================/
Date: 2008/11/07   Time: 20:30:08
Machine Name: WINXP-NG
Number of Processors: 2
PROCESSOR_ARCHITECTURE: x86
PROCESSOR_LEVEL: 15
PROCESSOR_REVISION: 2302
Physical Memory: 1024 MB
Pagefile Total: 2459 MB
Virtual Total: 2047 MB
PageFile1: \??\C:\pagefile.sys, 1534MB
OS Version: 5.1 Build 2600 Service-Pack: 3.0
WinDir: C:\WINDOWS

Kernrate User-Specified Command Line:
Kernrate_i386_XP.exe


Kernel Profile (PID = 0): Source= Time,
Using Kernrate Default Rate of 25000 events/hit
Starting to collect profile data

***> Press ctrl-c to finish collecting profile data
===> Finished Collecting Data, Starting to Process Results

------------Overall Summary:--------------

P0     K 0:00:09.312 ( 5.8%)  U 0:00:26.171 (16.3%)  I 0:02:05.062 (77.9%)  DPC
0:00:00.796 ( 0.5%)  Interrupt 0:00:00.031 ( 0.0%)
       Interrupts= 236352, Interrupt Rate= 1472/sec.

P1     K 0:00:10.343 ( 6.4%)  U 0:00:20.484 (12.8%)  I 0:02:09.718 (80.8%)  DPC
0:00:02.296 ( 1.4%)  Interrupt 0:00:00.015 ( 0.0%)
       Interrupts= 103314, Interrupt Rate= 644/sec.

TOTAL  K 0:00:19.656 ( 6.1%)  U 0:00:46.656 (14.5%)  I 0:04:14.781 (79.3%)  DPC
0:00:03.093 ( 1.0%)  Interrupt 0:00:00.046 ( 0.0%)
       Total Interrupts= 339666, Total Interrupt Rate= 2116/sec.


Total Profile Time = 160546 msec

                                       BytesStart          BytesStop         Byt
esDiff.
    Available Physical Memory   ,       694009856,       685936640,        -8073
216
    Available Pagefile(s)       ,      2177282048,      2171846656,        -5435
392
    Available Virtual           ,      2132496384,      2131447808,        -1048
576
    Available Extended Virtual  ,               0,               0,
  0

                                  Total      Avg. Rate
    Context Switches     ,       363037,         2261/sec.
    System Calls         ,      7355413,         45815/sec.
    Page Faults          ,        78903,         491/sec.
    I/O Read Operations  ,        11458,         71/sec.
    I/O Write Operations ,           54,         0/sec.
    I/O Other Operations ,         8255,         51/sec.
    I/O Read Bytes       ,     90260042,         7877/ I/O
    I/O Write Bytes      ,        61844,         1145/ I/O
    I/O Other Bytes      ,       153558,         19/ I/O

-----------------------------

Results for Kernel Mode:
-----------------------------

OutputResults: KernelModuleCount = 113
Percentage in the following table is based on the Total Hits for the Kernel

Time   107829 hits, 25000 events per hit --------
 Module                                Hits   msec  %Total  Events/Sec
AmdK8                                 96952     160546    89 %    15097230
hal                                    4382     160546     4 %      682358
ntkrnlpa                               3046     160546     2 %      474318
nv4_disp                               1312     160546     1 %      204302
ALCXWDM                                 776     160546     0 %      120837
win32k                                  698     160546     0 %      108691
dxg                                     246     160546     0 %       38306
nv4_mini                                225     160546     0 %       35036
watchdog                                 90     160546     0 %       14014
portcls                                  48     160546     0 %        7474
ks                                        9     160546     0 %        1401
sysaudio                                  5     160546     0 %         778
USBPORT                                   4     160546     0 %         622
Ntfs                                      4     160546     0 %         622
TfSysMon                                  4     160546     0 %         622
VIDEOPRT                                  3     160546     0 %         467
FILEM701                                  2     160546     0 %         311
rdbss                                     2     160546     0 %         311
epfwtdi                                   2     160546     0 %         311
tcpip                                     2     160546     0 %         311
ULILAN51                                  2     160546     0 %         311
TfFsMon                                   2     160546     0 %         311
jraid                                     2     160546     0 %         311
SbieDrv                                   1     160546     0 %         155
ipnat                                     1     160546     0 %         155
ipsec                                     1     160546     0 %         155
TDI                                       1     160546     0 %         155
usbohci                                   1     160546     0 %         155
Mup                                       1     160546     0 %         155
NDIS                                      1     160546     0 %         155
sr                                        1     160546     0 %         155
CLASSPNP                                  1     160546     0 %         155
SCSIPORT                                  1     160546     0 %         155
atapi                                     1     160546     0 %         155

================================= END OF RUN ==================================
============================== NORMAL END OF RUN ==============================

It would be nice if other could show their VMR7 vs VMR9 performance measurements on their Nvidia Cards :)
 
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