Playing Killzone from a Hard Drive

Sorry to bring up a dull topic not related to next gen or technical specs.

It is a continuation of my topic on data streaming in PS2 games.

I got Killzone for Christmas and unlike a lot of recent SCEE releases like Jak3, you can install it on your hard drive and play it using HD Loader.

I've never played my copy of Killzone from the disc.

Anyway, I still see lots of complaints about framerate slow down and other stuff.

It seems to me that playing from the hard drive has a lot of benefits for Killzone.

The improved seek times for data loaded from the hard drive seem to make the game play much more smoothly.

Things like the voice samples are pulled from the Disc and could effect the framerate. This happens with PES3, where crowd noises cause the game to slow down, this is a well reported phenomenon.

The game also streams the larger levels in sections. There are short bland corridor like sections in some levels which hide the fact that the next section of the level is being loaded. You see this in the Docks level. Again, I think the hard drive reduces the impact the streaming data load has on the framerate.

The game also has a sophisticated LOD (Level of Detail) system. Different textures and polygon models are used depending how close you are to an object. I assume some of this information is streamed from disc and would be improved due to the use of a hard drive.

Sometimes I feel like I'm playing a different game when I read the reviews and talk to people about the game. I took for granted the effect the hard drive had on the game, but I realise I might have underestimated the improvements.

Any one else have any thoughts on this topic.
 
Yeah, if you never played the game off the DVD, how can you be so sure the HDD does all this great stuff you say? :p
 
I agree, Nick; Killzone's underrated.

I play online fairly often, and every time I do, it leaves me all warm and fuzzy inside. One of my favorite games this generation for sure...
 
I play Killzone from the HDD. the load times are much faster. but all its graphically problems are still there. framerate still sucks and it still has the LoD problem. it may be less than when its running off the disc but it's hard to tell. your team AI is pretty dumb no matter what difficulty level you play it on. good game though. i hope the 2nd one lives up to its true potential.
 
Kolgar said:
I agree, Nick; Killzone's underrated.

I play online fairly often, and every time I do, it leaves me all warm and fuzzy inside. One of my favorite games this generation for sure...


online was fun when i played but had alot of little annoying glitches. have they patched it up well? if so i may jump on to see how it is. how is the community? still enough people on?
 
Kill_Jade said:
framerate still sucks and it still has the LoD problem. it may be less than when its running off the disc but it's hard to tell.


What's wrong with the LOD? Too aggressive?
 
Kill_Jade said:
online was fun when i played but had alot of little annoying glitches. have they patched it up well? if so i may jump on to see how it is. how is the community? still enough people on?

I never noticed many glitches, but I've recently heard talk of a "one-shot-kill" cheat that may or may not be real. Though I was surprised by some dude the other night who took me out in what I would describe as "a little too effortlessly." I was literally turning him into Swiss cheese, but no dice - he just turned, hit me with something (I DON'T think it was the shotgun), and down I went.

Anyway, I'm not sure WHAT the patches have done.

The community is the same as it ever was, I guess. Got on about 9:00 p.m. CT the other night and there were ~400 people, which tells me it's holding pretty steady.
 
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