I never claimed that cost increases were the only factor. I was responding to a poster who thinks the 4080 12GB should be priced like a 3060 Ti!
I can but will you be able to understand I wonder? See, these products have the same price (MSRP).
This is true and would increase GPUs cost by a small amount. But it does not justify the amount Nvidia is charging for.
Why are you taking the 3080Ti as reference? 3080Ti hast performance close to 3090, the 4080/16 is way slower than 4090. Sure price is the same, but again performance to the top GPU of the series is not.
Because... it has... the same launch price...
In all three, like I said. The difference in Division 2 isn't big, but it's there (so likely 1-2%)
If Nvidia lowers the price further they will risk cannibalizing 3000 series sales, and pissing off their partners. Once the stock has cleared, I suspect the price will fall to 3080 levels, which would be roughly in line with a 50% increase in BOM (that youtuber MLID claims from partner sources).
It's good then that I've said 3090 and not 3090Ti in my original post.
Let me help you...
Read my post.
Yes, but you said 4080 12GB would be considerably faster than 3090.
Yes they would cannibalize their 3000 series cards. And without the false 80 nametag on both of those cards, there would be absolutely no reason to justify their price tag.
I did. Quoting again:
But this thime, after correcting you two times, i no longer call it bullshit, but a straight lie. For whatever reason.
You could make the same comparison with the A770 vs 3060, considering the 3060 is smaller on a cheaper process with less power consumption. Clearly Nvidia are looking for healthy product margins, not fire sale margins to offload a new GPU with buggy drivers and inconsistent performance. Again, the 4080 is called an *80 likely because that's where its intended to sit in terms of price. Against a 3080 it's probably going to be ~25% faster, which is small by historical trends, but what we would expect to see generationally as the cost/transistor keeps increasing.
So is the price of a current Tesla Model 3 (MSRP $46, 000) justifiable when compared to the price of the same model 3 years ago (MSRP $35,000)?
Easily. These are games without RT and DLSS running in 4K (which is likely to be an issue for the 192 bit AD104).
No, you did not. Because if you would you wouldn't be asking such stupid questions.
REV uses RT even if sparingly.
This is getting tiring Degustator. Reported you for "stupid questions" (which are not) and gas lighting. On the present you are contributing zero to the discussion. He has a point and all you did was compare 2 generation of cards while stating 10 years. We didn't have only two generation of cards in 10 years!
It's using it in a way where it manages to run "fine" on AMD h/w which means that it is likely shading bound even on Ampere which in turn means that whatever advantages Ada has in RT won't show up there.
How can we assume that a 192 bit GPU will be more bandwidth starved than a 384 bit one? I mean there are no precedent of such issues in 4K on GPUs with a large LLC, right? (sigh)
Really. Because all your posts here are colored by your personal bias to a point where an obvious lie is preferable to you - like the one where 4080/12 is somehow slower than a 3090 in all games shown thus far.
So you didn't read my posts either and decided to report me because you didn't read my posts? Okay.
