Avatar: Frontiers of Pandora [XBSX|S, PC, PS5]
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cheapchips
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This, Forza 5 and snippets in Plague Tale Requiem make me quite excited for next gen foliage. I didn't really have an idea what to expect.
(Not so much HFW, as that's like an amped up version of HZD flora. Not to say it doesn't look nice)
(Not so much HFW, as that's like an amped up version of HZD flora. Not to say it doesn't look nice)
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This is impressive because this is the most difficult workload for raytracing.
What is ray traced foliage?
The same as a lot of PC which have no RT?
yeah lol? Are they talking about lighting and subsurface scattering for foliage using RT or what.
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Accurately simulated photosynthesis.
That’s what I was wondering? Maybe all the leaves have RT reflections applied? Or shadows?
Usually the problem is alpha test and any hit shaders needed to intersect foliage to get shadows / reflections from it, while putting reflections / shadows on their surface is not the problem.
Maybe they do no alpha test at all. Polygons seem pretty detailed, capturing the shapes well enough.
Maybe they do no alpha test at all. Polygons seem pretty detailed, capturing the shapes well enough.
Silent_Buddha
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I think the point was to showcase the absurdity of people calling this a real next gen game for one reason and one reason only. There is no previous gen version. They are certainly correct that this is a real next gen game. But not because it can't run on previous gen consoles, which it could if the developer decided to port it to previous gen consoles.
And that somehow makes the graphics better than if there existed a previous gen version. When we can see that the game is perfectly capable of running on last gen systems as it's on Stadia and PC (and likely will scale down to hardware similar to last gen systems).
IE - it'll take advantage of RT and modern console IO, using current gen consoles as the development target, but is fully capable of scaling to non-RT hardware and HDD based systems.
Basically, "real" next gen games are fully capable of running on last gen hardware if the developer wants to take the time to do it ... without sacrificing one bit of next gen quality on next gen systems. Previous gen consoles will obviously not look as good and possibly look quite bad in comparison, of course.
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Most likely rendering the actual geometry using ray tracing.
Remember that ray tracing or ray casting is intersection/occlusion test method just like rasterization.
RT can be very efficient on very large geometry counts, texturing and shading can be done in different pass. (The generation of acceleration structure for the moving forest must be magic though.
)This would be my guess.
Although I'm quite sure that they had couple of alpha tested grass puffs near camera in some scenes cases. (Most likely rasterized?)
Sycologist
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Pretty sure that's the newest version of the Snow Drop engine since it support RT. It's also possibly a real time cinematic "cutscene" and not gameplay for obvious reasons. I've played with the Snow Drop engine's real time photomode and it's quite powerful even on X1X. You could freely move the camera while everything in the scene runs as usual in real time with zero slow down. The only limitation is the camera distance but everything else is significantly upped in quality. That being said, Series X shouldn't have any problem rendering that cutscene in real time at 30fps.
Video about Avatar and new Snowdrop.
They added a new volumetric system for cloud. They have realtime GI and raytraced reflection and changing time of day and weather.
EDIT: They are very proud of raytracing and vegetation.
Big LOD system improvement mesh/primitive shading? And it was needed because you can fly using the banshee.
From what the technical director told out of quality settings no big difference of raytracing. Currently console will have realtime GI and raytraced reflection for example. But development is not finished maybe it will change.
EDIT: They confirm this is game footage and quality on PC.
They have a new procedural placement system for vegetation.
They have a new AI system for NPC and animal who reacted differently depending of the weather for example.
For SSD they are very happy and it helps the game design. There is only one loading when you load the game or load a save after everything is seamless from the ground to flying with a banshee or interior/exterior sequence.
All visibility testing/culling is done on the GPU. Another GPU driven title?
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cheapchips
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This is just the English talking heads bit included in the above video:
It seems they are happy to have PS5, Xbox Series and only PC as a requirement from what they told to the french journalist. No shitty cross gen.
EDIT: Forget Stadia and Amazon Luna too.
EDIT2:
https://www.ign.com/articles/avatar-ubisoft-massive-open-world-details
IGN confirms RT shadows
EDIT: Forget Stadia and Amazon Luna too.
EDIT2:
https://www.ign.com/articles/avatar-ubisoft-massive-open-world-details
IGN confirms RT shadows
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Johnny Awesome
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This is an impressive looking game. Hopefully the downgrades aren't too aggressive.
Called it. Quite an easy guess, seeing the graphics that where on display.
https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/...-cLAhTdaqYMC8BeFKuvimVFl-NesV32cWxVWyW4X2pCKs
Next gen starts with this one.
Next gen starts with this one.
