An Observation for ZOE2- a refreshing topic free of "vs

randycat99

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Well, I finally got my hands on a rental copy. WOW!!!

The in-game look really hints a cell-shaded appearance, no? I wasn't expecting this, but it definitely looks interesting.

The real reason I started this topic is, is it just me or does anybody think the construction of these robots are a bit odd with their giant "crotch cones". Is this completely innocent in Japanese culture, or is it the "crotch-centric" culture of America that makes this stand out to me? I mean, why is it so important to have this giant cone over your crotch? If you recall to the original ZOE, the crotch cone even pivots upward (as if seemingly an erection is occuring) when the jehuty is about to enter flight. What's all this about???
 
Its the cockpit. In an interview the designer laughed at this. Didn't exactly make it look less worse.

But it was a individual decision, and has little to do with culture. Except that americans are more prone to think this is more suggestive than it is.
 
I thought the cockpit was in the head? Why in the world would the cockpit be in the crotch? That's just odd, IMO! :) Surely, someone should have picked up on the implications of designing a big articulating bulge on the robot crotch! So when ADA is speaking, does that mean the jehuty is talking to its crotch? Why bother with the "Runner" nomenclature? Just call him a crotch pilot!
 
I don't know about uptight, as I'm not really offended, nor have I seen anybody else even remark upon it. I just think it is odd.
 
randycat99 said:
I thought the cockpit was in the head? Why in the world would the cockpit be in the crotch? That's just odd, IMO! :) Surely, someone should have picked up on the implications of designing a big articulating bulge on the robot crotch! So when ADA is speaking, does that mean the jehuty is talking to its crotch? Why bother with the "Runner" nomenclature? Just call him a crotch pilot!

the head would be the worse place. You'd put the cockpit in the most protected area of the droid . Namely the chest area. You can put more armor there than the head. Also the head will come off quickly and would render the droid dead . So yea the head is a bad place.
 
What is even the point of having a jehuty head, anyways then? An expendable giveaway target? I sense that we are at the borders of a logistical vs. fantasy conflict. Being that ZOE is a fantasy world where robots "need" heads (or at least, headed mechanisms seem more natural in a human-centric world), but the actual cockpit is best located in a central, well-armored area, we end up with robots with useless heads (out of formality) and articulated crotches. :? Getting back to the actual premise, however, the "protection" theory for a crotch cockpit still isn't that strong. Being as external as it is (as depicted in the game), it would not seem any more armored or protected than if it was the head. Additionally, if you know your enemies cockpit is in the crotch, you can just as easily hit that as you could the head. So what difference does it really make???
 
Oh, just give your - and Jehuty's - crotch a rest will ya, Randy... :LOL: :LOL: :LOL:

This has to be been the funnest thread I read in ages...! :LOL: :LOL: :LOL:


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Well according to Japanese Mecha Lore, the pilot usually goes in the chest (more armoured, etc), and the head is a sensor unit.

If you ask me, the ZoE-crotch thing is simply a way for the designers to differentiate their mechs from the crop of others, while getting the phallic imagery as gravy.

Keep in mind that only Jehuty, Anubis, and Vic Viper had crotchpits. If you want to get really flakey you could insinuate that they are all 'alpha males' contesting each other to be #1.. blah blah blah. Hey, there was a King Kong reference in MGS2, so Kojima isn't totally beyond this stuff :LOL:
 
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