3dmark2001 reset/errors on Dragothic low detail

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HippeyBosnian

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Me again :D

FInding out lots of interesting things with my new Geforce4 ti4200.

3dmark2001 worked fine on my Radeon. I wanted to test it out with my new MSI Geforce4 ti4200 (40.72 drivers in WIn2k SP3) and the game either resets on Dragothic (Low Detail) run or gives me a blue screen with the following (this is the latest error btw)

IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR EVEN

then some hex code error.. then

BEGINNING DUMP OF PHYSICAL MEMORY


now sometimes the computer resets.. sometimes I get the blue screen as outlined above.... any ideas???


ECS K7S5A (SiS 735 Chipset)
Athlon XP 1700+
512MB DDRPC2100 (they are not from the same company, could that be it??)
WIn2k SP3
40.72 Detonator drivers


Any help or leads would be much appreciated :)

Thanks.
 
I had that error a while back, and simply moved my SBLive! card to another PCI slot. Problem went away, but could have been random luck.

Did you completely remove the ATI drivers before installing the GF4, or was this a fresh OS install?
 
yeah I removed the drivers while I had the ATI card in.. then when it said it had to reboot.. I hit ok, shut down, put in the new GF4 card and installed the drivers.

I also used a Registry Cleaner to remove any instances of ATI on my system.

hmmmmm... so this could be a SBlive/GF4 thing??

btw.. yes I have the SB Live Value DIgital
 
It could be an SBLive thing. Any time I see an IRQ error, and there's an SBLive card in the system, I'm very suspicious.

I'd say, as something that is an easy first thing to try, move the SBLive to another PCI slot and reinstall drivers for it.
 
This might be known to you, but usually the easiest thing to do is a search on Google, MadOnion( because it is an error with their product ), nVidia, and Microsoft's Knowledge Database for your hexidecimal error. Those address values are usually consistant and unique, so if anyone else has had the problem, it might be easier to find it that way, rather than describing it out.
 
Well the error is getting harder to localize now....

basically it still happens during Dragothic, only now, sometimes it even gets through the low detail and just crashes in the high detail.

and now it just crashed to desktop, doesn't reboot or give me the BSOD.

Unfortunatelly, this means I Have no errors codes/messages to look for.

Basically, I changed the Direct3D setting called TEXTURE SIZE WHEN IN PCI MODE. It was 63MB or something, and I changed it to 2MB (lowest)

it did something, as the crashes aren't so bad now, but they still happen.

Off to try the Sblive thing. But please, post any more ideas that you have
 
Um ive got the same EXACT same problems with my system.
Downclocking my Duron 1ghz from 1.5ghz to 1.4ghz and fsb from 180 to 175 solved the problems.
However i have a slight feeling that it might be the PSU not supplying a strong enough and steady enough current. As my Duron could run at 1.5 fine with my TNT2 instead of the ti4200

oh my system is

Gainward ti4200 64mb
Win2k Servicepack2
Epox8k3a
Duron1ghz@1.4
256kingmax pc2700
Auriga 300watt psu
SoundBlaster live 1024
 
I have this same problem with one of my Athlon rig, just suddenly resetting on me, now it doesn't even want to boot.

The problem occur, when we were playing UT2003K demo, when it crashed and give the typical UT engine error thingy, threw me out back to Window.

Than start UT2003k again, this time it just reset after just playing for a moment.

Try WC3, that works fine, try NWN works fine, try 3DMark2001, and it hard resets during Dragothic as well, but not always, it'll reset or freeze during any demo.

Reinstall W2k with sp2, it fails half way, give me Blue screen with some crap. After 3 try it finally succeed installing it. But problem didn't go away, any intensive 3D apps will reset the system. while keep trying, now it just go to boot screen, memory check, and then blank screen.

I just let it sit there collecting dust at the moment, I took out the HD, and the Geforce and try it on my other computers, it works fine.

Anyone encounter this kind of problem before ? can recommend me with a solution or what to look for? The system is pretty bare, its just for network gaming. no OverClocking is done.
 
Try underclocking ur cpu(so it uses less power) and taking down ur fsb if u can.
see if that makes any difference, if u have a spare psu, a good one , try that too
 
V3 said:
I have this same problem with one of my Athlon rig... Reinstall W2k with sp2, it fails half way, give me Blue screen with some crap. After 3 try it finally succeed installing it.
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That does sound like a general system instability, caused by either memory or CPU being too stressed IMO. Even if there is no overclocking, perhaps backing off of some memory settings in BIOS would help. Try reapplying thermal compound and reseating the CPU HSF... also, what PSU and how many drives and fans are in the system?
 
Hmm.. well the power supply is a no-name brand 300W one.

I do have lots of fans though. Besides the Athlon fan (which is a thermaltake one, so I'd imagine it taking more power), it also has 2 case fans, 1 hard-drive fan, and well obviouslly the Geforce4 fan.

Hmmm.. it's quite possible it could be a power thing.
 
HippeyBosnian said:
Hmmm.. it's quite possible it could be a power thing.
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Very likely.

It took me about 2 months to track down my crashing problems - my Enermax 480W PSU was putting out +4.3v and +11.2v on the +5v and +12v rails respectively which is way too low.

Swapped it out for an Antec TruePower 480PSU and the rails are running at +4.96v and +11.94v which is well within tolerance :)
 
Damn man.. how many fans you got that needs 480W??? :D

Well I have one case fan drawing power from the motherboard (since that way I can monitor it's speed) but some people told me I should hook it up directly to the power supply. I'll try removing it and maybe the juice it was taking will be enough for it to be stable.

If not, I'll also try downlocking.

if it IS the power supply... which 400W would you recommend as the best bang for buck (kinda on the budget since the last upgrade :oops: )
 
While I really like my SB Live, I have to just say they are really evil cards with drivers that are even more evil. Any IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR EVEN error that I get very much seems to be because of the Live. I've also had numerous other hardware conflicts between the Live and other cards.
 
Good to know the IRQL... error is because of the Live card.. if I do get it more often I'll have to change the card in another PCI slot.. or just switch to onboard mobo audio :) hehe

but.. in other news.. i FIXED THE PROBLEM :)

hehe.. it does seem to have been the problem of not enough power.. I unplugged one of my case fans from the motherboard and it now works fine.. soon as I have the moolah I'll head to my computer store and pick up a 400W one.. but for now.. it'll run fine without it..

I just wanna thank everyone for helping me localize the problem :) much appreciated guys
 
That does sound like a general system instability, caused by either memory or CPU being too stressed IMO. Even if there is no overclocking, perhaps backing off of some memory settings in BIOS would help. Try reapplying thermal compound and reseating the CPU HSF... also, what PSU and how many drives and fans are in the system?
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Actually I did, I lowered the the multiplier to 100, from 133, the same thing still happend. The thing is, this rig was running fine, for 1 year, until this problem occured, when we were playing UT2k3. The CPU is the old Athlon 1.4, even at 1 GHz the reset problem still occur. The temp is around 44 degree.

The rig is pretty bare, 300 W PSU, Athlon 1.4, Epox 8K7A mobo, 256MB DDR PC2100, 20 GB HD, Geforce 2 GTS, network card, CD-ROM and floppy, Nothing fancy, just for network gaming.

But it is the only Athlon rig, that is there, the rest is Pentium 3 rig. My main rig is also Athlon, I am afraid, the same problem will occur. If so, I might change the whole thing to the latest P4.
 
err if your psu is causing that problem and u havent checked even at 1ghz still might be the PSU and u put in a p4 that draws more power(since u said latest) i dont see how ur problems will go away
 
So this could be a PSU problem ? Thanks, I'll check the PSU.

This one is not my main rig, so its not a big of problem, but if it happend to my main rig, I would have big problem :( I am worried about Athlon that's all.
 
The PSU and casing are AMD certified. I checked it, it seems to run fine.

Now its either the Mobo, RAM, or CPU :( , I hate it when this thing happend.
 
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