Denon Electronics announced today its first foray into the heated high-definition media battle with the announcement of the DVD-3800BDCI, a top-of-the-line Blu-ray disc player expected to launch sometime this fall. Set to retail for the normal-for-Denon price-point of $1,999, the 3800BDCI is the first Blu-ray player yet announced to formally support BD Profile 1.1, required of all Blu-ray players brought to market after October 31st. <br /><br />Read the full news item
Denon enters HD format war with Blu-ray player announcement
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Maybe it's just new zealand, but I didn't think denon was that bigger a player in the HT industry..
I would have put them in with the likes of HK, NAD and such, very niche and expensive
That's how they are, they won't see a lot of units this simply gives the format a super high end presence I guess. If you ask me its nothing major, Denon is a brand that people wish they could own, not a brand they actually own. Super niche/expensive.
I think as far as pure audio goes, they are seen as "low-end", but there entire A/V stuff is highly regarded and stretches up to the audiophile level (£2000 amp) where it competes very well with more legendary brands (on A/V performance).
But Denon doesn't offer anything in the really silly money catagory
I think as far as pure audio goes, they are seen as "low-end", but there entire A/V stuff is highly regarded and stretches up to the audiophile level (£2000 amp) where it competes very well with more legendary brands (on A/V performance).
But Denon doesn't offer anything in the really silly money catagory
I agree, they nest in the higher end of the consumer and lower end of the audiophile segment, same as Pioneer.
In this segment they have excellent bang/$ (power, features, build quality) compared to most of the competition. Their main problem is their UIs are in many cases directly user-hostile (especially compared to other japanese products from Pioneer, Sony etc.).
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Mintmaster
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Anyone interested in this player already has either a HD-DVD or Blu-Ray player, so the news is rather irrelevant.
The next 6 months are big. In holiday 2008, BR and HD-DVD will likely have a small price differential, so HD-DVD has to take advantage now if it wants to make a statement (e.g. get a studio to go neutral). Even if that doesn't happen, though, I don't see HD-DVD dying before dual-format players have a minimal price premium.
The next 6 months are big. In holiday 2008, BR and HD-DVD will likely have a small price differential, so HD-DVD has to take advantage now if it wants to make a statement (e.g. get a studio to go neutral). Even if that doesn't happen, though, I don't see HD-DVD dying before dual-format players have a minimal price premium.
I think they probably just hate the users. Or maybe they think only users smart enough should be able to use their equipments. I have a Denon AV receiver and after years of usage I still have to check the manual to know what it's doing.
Bouncing Zabaglione Bros.
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I think they believe too much in their elitist reputation. There's been a lot of complaints on AV forums about things like lip-sysc delay problem, poor Mpeg 4 support, etc and Denon arn't really interested in dealing with customer complaints on these issues. AFAICT, mainstream suppliers like Pioneer provide better, more compatible products at the lower end, and if you are willing to pay a premium for Denon, you're better off looking at more capable equipment from the likes of Oppo.
I just think their products are made by EEs, and they have zero emphasis on human engineering. I've got a 3806 (a 2006 product), which has OSD graphics comparable to the original PONG! video game.
Same here.
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I think the important thing to take from this annoucement is that Denon now see it as worth while to produce Bluray solutions, and thus that Bluray may be the format with more future?
Previously the smaller niche manufactuers have waited before dipping into either HD pools.
Another note is that this should be the first player which supports DTS Master Audio, although suprisingly no ethernet.
Previously the smaller niche manufactuers have waited before dipping into either HD pools.
Another note is that this should be the first player which supports DTS Master Audio, although suprisingly no ethernet.
In a related news Denon announced 13 new A/V receivers. All with HDMI 1.3a :smile:
http://www.audioholics.com/news/industry-news/denon-displays-13-new-a-v-receivers.html
http://www.audioholics.com/news/industry-news/denon-displays-13-new-a-v-receivers.html
Bouncing Zabaglione Bros.
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Just read that there have been comments from Denon in Germany that they are also preparing a HD-DVD unit, so this Blu-Ray announcement may not be as meaningful as it's being painted.