intel and amd are working on havoc together.... intel alone can eat up, crap out, and redigest nv in one sitting. Havoc will out do physx eventually due to the sheer $ in r&d. U are right that until something comes out, its all show and talk and useless, but it will eventually come to and then...
cuz like it or not, open cl is pretty awesome. everyone can use it and it uses all cpu cores and all gpus.
it will set, if it gets big, a standard for a lot of things for games and such.
Nv's physx/cuda only works for thier things thus game companies arnt totaly for it because it leaves...
all ati needs to do is keep hacking away at nv. they did a little with the 48xx and now with this 5xxx out early, they can do some damage here. and, ofcourse nv will hold the single chip champion... It would be stupid to release a slower 395 than a 5870x2 or 385/5890....
also, with open cl...
from the talks of it all, you guys are all ready calling it GAME OVER for nv. ATI hasnt even released 1 card yet and the prices are going to be out of this roof. we have no specs, no nada. Only wow at a bagilion x bagilion resolution.
we cant say ati wins, nv looses. (i am a ati fan boy tho...