Zune HD Now Available

Audiosurf. Buy.

AS is my most played PC game (and damn, I'm good at it so ) and Zune 4.0 is SEXY.

 

Finally. Installing Zune 4.0 in a couple of minutes. Shame Microsoft still doesn't have international markets as a strategic option in the Zune dpt.

 

I'm blaming MS's totally messed mobile strategy and Windows Mobile 7 delay for the lack of third-party appstore. Now the ZuneHD will have to wait t'ill WM7 phones are out (Tegra/SnapDragon/OMAP3430 phones) to get access to the Windows MarketPlace for Mobile.

 

Hmm... let me see if I understood him correctly:

a) The guy visits one BestBuy, gets your average CE store employee ignorance and blames Microsoft.
b) BB's system wasn't ready to scan a device and he blames the manufacturer instead of BB's store manager.
c) He obviously never tried most other CE devices with batteries that also power on when charging for the first time even though the docs instruct customers only to use such devices after they've been fully charged.
d) He mentions how the device comes with the old software (he means firmware here BTW) and yet is still surprised the device won't show the browser, which is new until he syncs (i.e. updates firmware). Uncanny. CE's coming with old firmware is nothing new, again.
e) He's surprised games only show up when you sign up for a Zune account. Maybe he should read the instructions then. App store is free but only available to zune users, which he isn't until he creates an account. The reason why MS didn't include games is probably because on the old Zune version (3.1) the firmware updates alone were 90mb. That's why the new version is only 55mb, down from 135mb (even though it now includes a 20mb welcome video).
f) he had an error message during installation, I didn't. What do I win?

A handful of incidental, third-party responsability, RTFM-worthy, anecdotal issues and yet, from his sole experience, he calls the launch blown.

What did he call the iPhone launch where you couldn't even activate the phone for a day and brawls breaking out in stores? Zombie Apocalypse Now Redux?

Here's a thought: maybe he shouldn't have wasted a quarter of the article describing his trip to a store with photos instead of more information about the device, software, services, battery times, performance, visuals, etc.

 

No more squirting?

 

i really really want to import one of these (to the uk), i think if i can get hold one after the 28th for less than £200 i will get one, i dont think i will wait for them to not come to the eu this time does any one here use a zune 3.0 player whats the sound quality like?

 

I want to get one, but I am waiting for a larger HDD.

Hopefully, there will be something announced before the end of this year.

 

Nice translation from Gruber (Daring Fireball) regarding Zune & Third-Party App Development:

Is there an in-depth Zune HD review yet? I'm also interested in a link to an in-depth comparison between the features that the Zune HD 32GB and the iPod touch 32GB have in common (seems to me everyone is more concentrating on what one gadget can and the other one can't do in their reviews).

 

lol Daring Fireball. During 9/9/09 when the v3 iPod Touches did not have a camera he tried his best to spam tons of links to cover it up. Just another plant who got big because of a few sources.

WM7 and the Zune could be using the same underlying CE (6?) layer, and such are mostly inter-operable. But as a PR guy you can't really comment on future products, can you? Leaving the surprise to 7?

 

I'm pretty sure real third-party apps will come at some point. But if Zune has to wait until WM7 is ready then Microsoft really has a problem (if they want more than the 1-2% market share they have right now). It's not like WM7 is just a few weeks or months away, if you could buy a WM7 device before the next iPhone or even iPod touch comes out I would be really surprised. Let's just hope that Zune get's a real and competitive marketplace first and then WM7 will reuse it instead of the other way around.

 

I still can't find any in-depth review of the Zune HD so far but found this Browser comparaison video (Zune HD vs Windows Mobile) http://www.mobiletechworld.com/2009...to-windows-mobile-ie-6-mobile-hands-on-video/

 

The first in-depth review is up . From the fruit fanboys @ gizmodo: http://gizmodo.com/5360126/zune-hd-review-the-pmp-evolved

 

Another review:
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/news/2009/09/zune-hd-review.ars

Information from that review that I haven't seen anywhere else:

Sunspider Javascript Benchmark (in Milliseconds):
Zune HD: 184,356
iPhone 3GS: 15,082
(I don't know why they didn't test it against the current iPod touch 32GB which is supposed to be a little faster than the iPhone 3GS).

And the browser can't stream internet radio.

And I didn't really realize how much of a pain in the butt the Quickplay Button is. I honestly thought until today that it can act as a volume rocker too:

Regarding the Gizmodo and some other reviews (sorry, rant coming, you've been warned):
All through the review they compare the Zune HD to the iPod touch, but in the end they practically say: one is a pocket computer, one is a PMP, so you can't really compare them (because Microsoft didn't intend to). And so in the conclusion they just ignore anything other than pure PMP criteria... I just don't get that. The Zune HD was clearly aimed as an iPod touch competitor (I guess Microsoft just changed it's mind last minute because they realized they couldn't compete, that's why they were so cryptic regarding apps etc.). And now the iPod touch is so out of the Zune's league that the press won't even acknowledge it's shortcomings. Even the tiny (in comparison) Palm is at least trying and offering an SDK and an App Store. But big Microsoft just gives up and we're supposed to be ok with it? That's like if the Pre wouldn't have any third party apps, no App Store or any official plan for one and the reviewers just say: it's a fantastic cell phone, best one there is. You can't hold it against Palm that they used to build things where you could install third-party apps and that there's a competitor out there for the same price where you can install apps and that this app thing is big right now. That other one is a smartphone, so you can't think negative of the Pre just because it's a normal phone... And just one more thing from the Gizmodo review: "The Zune HD is a great PMP, but it could have been a jaw-dropping, unbelievable phone." Right, it could have been a jaw-dropping, unbelievable dumbphone. Because that's what everyone wants right now.

 

You probably missed the memo, but Microsoft has already sort of "announced" that the Zune as we know it is done, finished (their may be one more SKU but that's all). The Zune Hardware Team went the way of the Dodo and is now part of the Windows Mobile Hardware Team. Zune Software team is now part of the Widows Media Center division since the begining of the year. Not having a Zune HD thrid-party appstore wasn't a last minutre decision. The only problem here is that, if WM7 wasn't delayed and came out as it was originaly planned, which means now, there wouldn't have been any problem. Now MS is screwed in regards to the Zune HD because they'll have to wait for WM7 to be released to plug the Zune into the Windows Mobile Marketplace. So the only solution they found is to give away a couple of apps for free until the WinMo team stops fucking around and finishes WM7. The "WM7" phones are already here, unfortunitaly they will ship with WM6.5 (the HTC Leo : http://www.mobiletechworld.com/2009...ideo-multi-touch-capacitive-screen-in-action/ )

MS just fucked up big time in regards to WinMo.