Wow! Renesas Announces "Dreamcast On A Chip"
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Well yeah but why wouldn't they be able to use a lower resolution for portables? They did say "up to 1024x768". On a portable that resolution would be useful if they wanted to have it able to output to a monitor. It would be nice to be able to hook up a portable to a PC monitor as required.
Yep that's why the talk about twice the polygon performance confuses me. :?
Actually it's probably real. 
BTW the link below also shows what the other companies will be presenting at the FPF.
http://www.mdronline.com/mpr/183801.html
BTW the link below also shows what the other companies will be presenting at the FPF.
http://www.mdronline.com/mpr/183801.html
PC-Engine said:
Sorry, i just had to....:? What's so funny with High Speed Interconnects :?
... ah, now I get it, DC and high speed.... uh..... or not,.... no, no I don't get it :? :?
... ah, now I get it, DC and high speed.... uh..... or not,.... no, no I don't get it :? :?
I don't know what's so funny about it either...
A unified memory architecture and high-speed on-chip interconnects help reduce costs while maintaining high performance
I would expect a high-speed on-chip interconnect between the cpu and gpu of a single chip configuration...much faster and cheaper than an external bus connecting two separate chips.
A unified memory architecture and high-speed on-chip interconnects help reduce costs while maintaining high performance
I would expect a high-speed on-chip interconnect between the cpu and gpu of a single chip configuration...much faster and cheaper than an external bus connecting two separate chips.
According to the pretty old ARM pdf the MBX@80MHz scores just a tad lower than the Dreamcast; that on 180nm.
How would 150MHz@130nm and 600MFLOPs/s from the VGP sound? It's pure speculation, but I don't think it's impossible at all.
Still a handheld type of gaming device would be great with such a setup and reading Wavey's comment about Sammy, they really should think of it IMHO. Sammy did license MBX from Renesas AFAIK.
How would 150MHz@130nm and 600MFLOPs/s from the VGP sound? It's pure speculation, but I don't think it's impossible at all.
Still a handheld type of gaming device would be great with such a setup and reading Wavey's comment about Sammy, they really should think of it IMHO. Sammy did license MBX from Renesas AFAIK.
PC-Engine said:
That's what happens when you snort cigarette lighter gas just before making a post, L-B! Make that a lesson for you.
A handheld by Sammy/Sega is really unexpected, especially by the first quarter of 2005. We would have already heard from Sega/Sammy about their plans since a long time ago, at least since the last TGS.
OTOH, having Sammy using this chip on "Video" Pachinko slot machines is a real possibility. For obvious "cost/graphics" reasons.
Or another possible scenario, Sammy/Sega is releasing a handheld only in Asia (South Korea would be the more "obvious" choice).
And the last possibility, the one that makes the most sense, it's just a chip available to OEMs who want a all-in-one solution for the Portable/Tablet market.
OTOH, having Sammy using this chip on "Video" Pachinko slot machines is a real possibility. For obvious "cost/graphics" reasons.
Or another possible scenario, Sammy/Sega is releasing a handheld only in Asia (South Korea would be the more "obvious" choice).
And the last possibility, the one that makes the most sense, it's just a chip available to OEMs who want a all-in-one solution for the Portable/Tablet market.
woah the actual deal was announced 2 years ago
http://www.imgtec.com/News/Release/index.asp?ID=44
"Sammy to use PowerVR Based System on Chip
Hitachi to Supply Sammy with Highly Integrated System-on-Chip (SoC) Device with PowerVR Technology
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6 June 2002
London, UK: Imagination Technologies (LSE:IMG), the leading provider of multimedia and communication intellectual property (IP), today announced that Sammy Corporation of Japan (TSE:6426) will use SoCs with integrated PowerVR graphic and video cores, supplied by Hitachi, Ltd (TSE:6501), in an advanced graphics display system to be developed by Sammy. Sammy, a rapidly growing Japanese corporation, is a major player in the game machine industry with sales of YEN 164 billion (USD 1.3 billion) in FY2002.
Sammy plans to use the SoCs with integrated PowerVR graphics and Hitachi's SuperHâ„¢ family within the Sammy group for: -
LCD displays of pachislot and pachinko machines
Amusement game machines
and for other uses, achieved through collaborations with other companies, which include:-
Mobile devices, including PDAs
Industrial and consumer equipment requiring graphics display
The advanced graphics display system will enable future expansion of Sammy's NEWS (New Entertainment World of Sammy) business, which focuses on new technology sectors. This deal is core to Sammy's strategy for the development of Sammy's new technology business, not only in the current business arenas of the Sammy Group but also in other markets, through collaborations with other companies. Sammy expects to start mass production of these devices in 2004. The PowerVR graphics cores used in the system have been licensed from Imagination Technologies by Hitachi Ltd, as previously announced, and include PowerVR MBX, MPEG4, and Display Controller cores. Imagination Technologies will receive royalty revenue from the products shipped."
It's seems like this was made specifically for Sammy, which would now be Sega, as all of this side of sammy's business was transferred over to sega after the merger.
http://www.imgtec.com/News/Release/index.asp?ID=44
"Sammy to use PowerVR Based System on Chip
Hitachi to Supply Sammy with Highly Integrated System-on-Chip (SoC) Device with PowerVR Technology
------------------------------------------
6 June 2002
London, UK: Imagination Technologies (LSE:IMG), the leading provider of multimedia and communication intellectual property (IP), today announced that Sammy Corporation of Japan (TSE:6426) will use SoCs with integrated PowerVR graphic and video cores, supplied by Hitachi, Ltd (TSE:6501), in an advanced graphics display system to be developed by Sammy. Sammy, a rapidly growing Japanese corporation, is a major player in the game machine industry with sales of YEN 164 billion (USD 1.3 billion) in FY2002.
Sammy plans to use the SoCs with integrated PowerVR graphics and Hitachi's SuperHâ„¢ family within the Sammy group for: -
LCD displays of pachislot and pachinko machines
Amusement game machines
and for other uses, achieved through collaborations with other companies, which include:-
Mobile devices, including PDAs
Industrial and consumer equipment requiring graphics display
The advanced graphics display system will enable future expansion of Sammy's NEWS (New Entertainment World of Sammy) business, which focuses on new technology sectors. This deal is core to Sammy's strategy for the development of Sammy's new technology business, not only in the current business arenas of the Sammy Group but also in other markets, through collaborations with other companies. Sammy expects to start mass production of these devices in 2004. The PowerVR graphics cores used in the system have been licensed from Imagination Technologies by Hitachi Ltd, as previously announced, and include PowerVR MBX, MPEG4, and Display Controller cores. Imagination Technologies will receive royalty revenue from the products shipped."
It's seems like this was made specifically for Sammy, which would now be Sega, as all of this side of sammy's business was transferred over to sega after the merger.
