Why would I want to use the ATI CCC?

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  1. rwolf

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    Now your talking my language. TEA is for elderly british ladies.

    I don't know why people are crying over 55MB. Memory is cheap go and add another GB to your system.
     
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    ... then go and buy dual-core cpu to make CCC speedy, dual-core CPUs are cheap today what are you waiting for ?!

    I really like the way some people solve all problems...
     
  3. Quitch

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    Grrrr, this stupid line of thought cheeses me off:

    1. Use CP, uses no RAM I pay no money.

    2. Use CCC, uses RAM, I buy more RAM to account for that and other control panels which decide that staying resident (with no option to disable) is really, really important.

    Hmmm, so tough... memory is cheap, eh? Is it, say, £0? If it isn't, then it isn't cheap enough to waste on something as stupid as the CCC when I can just use the CP, or a third party product.

    I'm getting 55MB from the Memory Usage column in XP. Now, as far as I recall, that is memory actually in use, not memory space reserved.
     
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    ATI might be better off just employing Ray Adams - even the normal CP is huge by his standards (and with far far less features).
     
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    Well i like the CCC, and i have RAM, lots of RAM, i have so much Ram, i poop RAM. I poop RAM because i have a job, and live i the greatest country in the world. the United States of America, where we poop RAM.:roll: As for the ATT it is JUST starting to be a good app. I have been testing/useing it from day one and WHAT A BUGGY POC. it was... its just kinda crappy now. IT never stays on my systems? maybe the next update.... Oh yeah I poop ram.
     
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    Better than ramming poop.
     
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    I have not found ATT to be buggy at all.
     
  8. Moloch

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    what do you think happens to the 55MB of physical ram when you launch a game or any other app that needs lots of ram?
    I'd rather they just make it more snappy.
     
  9. Guden Oden

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    No, you just said it eats up even more! :twisted:

    You can't "reserve" memory without using it. Reserving (allocating) memory IS using it. It might get paged out to disk, but you still have X megs of memory allocated even if they're paged out.

    Paging consumes system resources too (particulary on the disk drive, since they're so terribly slow). I can't for my life figure out what the hell the CCC is doing that requires a total of 62 megs of memory. That's nearly as much as my entire first PC's physical memory! Whatever the hell it is using the memory for, that piece of crap just need to GO because it's well...crap! There's no excuse for using so damn much memory for something so trivial!
     
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    I have nothing but trouble with CCC. It would crash my apps and never force AA or AF. If they get rid of CP then they need to fix CCC first.
     
  11. Moloch

    Moloch God of Wicked Games
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    I remember when I got my radeon 8500 in early 2002 I was like "this ting has the same ammount of ram as my last computer did" :)
    So while on the subject of ram.. what the hell is azurerus doing that needs over 100 MB of memory?
    I swear if I leave that open for hours with a few torrents running ill have like 100MB free and if I exit it I have well over 250MB free (512 ram total).
     
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    best idea ever! :smile:
    i bet he would be of great use for them in any way....
     
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    Good question. Azureus is a bloated, slow, systemhogging mess. Get BitComet instead is my suggestion.

    DAMN, I hate the fucking bloat in programs today... Even linux isn't immune to it these days(main offender: KDE). I can't understand these people above defending what is in essence PURE LAZINESS on the programmers' part. Hey, just because I've got a GB of RAM(which I don't, btw) it isn't there for your shitty little application which sets a few bloody registry settings and you can't be bothered to make the most basic optimisations! Yes, ATI and Creative, I'm talking to you! :evil:

    Do they set some n00b intern with VB on the job or what's the deal? When I started programming, coders took pride in making the program as efficient and slimlined as possible. Sure, we had to, but these days it's like nobody gives a shit if notepad takes up 100MB for no particular reason. In my day we valued every byte we could get ...and had to walk to school in -30C freezing cold, wading through snow up to our hips and... ;)
     
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    While I agree that everything today seems bloated and that we are wasting computing resources at the same rate as everything else on this planet, I don't think this is all ATI's fault. I just looked at Nhancer for Nvidia hardware. It is a very simple tool to configure settings for profiles. It is nothing fancy looking at all, but it consumes ~25MB while running.

    I think this is more a case of "Welcome to .NET" than anything else. This doesn't excuse or even begin to solve the problem, but I fear this level of resource consumption is set to become the standard. :cry:

    PS. The example of Nhancer was used because it, like CCC, uses .NET.
     
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    It gets paged, to the hard drive, the same hard drive that's trying to read the files for my game and can only read/write one thing at a time... so, it slows the load time, a control panel app is slowing my load time by writing 55MB of data to the hard drive. That's great, my new super duper graphics card just slowed my game.

    I concur with the above, it's just lazy. WTF requires 55MB? Az is a known bloated program, and I can't understand WTF it's doing with that memory either, so I'm tempted to change. I have RAM for programs that NEED that RAM, not so programs can dance in and out of my page file because the programers couldn't be bothered to optimise.
     
  17. AlphaWolf

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    If you are playing with the control panel, you aren't playing the game.
     
  18. Quitch

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    My point, the whole point of this thread is that regardless of whether you are using the control panel, you're using RAM. Now I don't know about you, but I often load Windows and then DON'T sit around for an hour waiting for things to get paged, I tend to fire something up, like a RAM hogging game, right away.
     
  19. Moloch

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    Il try out that other BT client...
    ok.. why isn't utorrent using all the space I have to display the advanced details and I cant see how to make the area bigger.
    http://www.cashmoneyuploads.com/view/v103522/
     
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  20. Althornin

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    reserved and unmapped memory is, IIRC, reserved directly out of swap, and is thus not paged at all.
     

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