Water Shader Contest?

[Leto]

Water in computer games have been getting prettier and prettier since the introduction of shaders and it's always interesting to see how well the water looks in a new game.
Pirates of Carribean XXI

.PDF - Pacific Fighters - Vertex Textures

Far Cry

Half-Life 2

Halo

About time B3d held a water shading contest for all the skilled people here on these forums!?

 

[hoom]

Battlestations Midway

It can't just be a shader though, water needs to behave like water, with splashes & proper waves/ripples.

 

[Leto]

Thats righ ofc.

Impressive screenies!

This looks "too good" imo sure this one isn't offline rendered?
http://www.3dgamers.com/screenshots/games/midway/1.html

Reminds me of the good ole amiga classic Wings of Fury[/url]

 

[mustrum]

Thats righ ofc.

Impressive screenies!

This looks "too good" imo sure this one isn't offline rendered?
http://www.3dgamers.com/screenshots/games/midway/1.html

Reminds me of the good ole amiga classic Wings of Fury[/url]

There's aliaising on the deck of that carrier though. If it would be offline rendered, wouldn't they get rid of that as well?
Lets hope this is no fake. This would blow everything out opf the water for sure!

 

[gkar1]

Looks very nice compared to what's already out, but i can still see that annoying shininess.

 

[thop]

I'm all for it, i was always interested in water in games. I'd really like to make a history of water in (video)games some day. And brings back fond memories of one of my favourite games, WaveRace 64

Battlestation Midway looks good, but there is still too much mercury in that water

 

[Xmas]

Impressive screenies!

This looks "too good" imo sure this one isn't offline rendered?
http://www.3dgamers.com/screenshots/games/midway/1.html

This looks like toy boats in a pond. Okay, maybe it's really better than any other game out there, but it's still far far away from looking like real sea.

 

[jvd]

http://eq2.ogaming.com/gallery/albums/album29/eq2_002_ultra.sized.jpg

eq2 watter , here is another good one

http://eq2.ogaming.com/gallery/albums/album29/mmorpg2054.jpg

http://eq2.ogaming.com/gallery/albums/album09/fishinpond_001.sized.jpg

 

[Farid]

Half-Life 2

That's mercure, not water, and it's not even close to it.
Midway, Virtual Skipper 3, and Pirates of XXI are really close to what one should call water.

edit: I don't think that is coming from Halo. That one is indeed from Halo.

 

[DSN2K]

I look at these pictures and think whats the point if it dont move like water ? I find Wave Race more impressive. :?
wave physics and collision detection are what make water look good imo.

http://premium.uploadit.org/dsn2000/wracefirst4.mov watch.

 

[jjayb]

WTF?!? I just clicked on the half-life 2 link and got bombarded with programs installing themselves. Webrebates, bargain buddy etc.

 

[Goragoth]

FarCry water isn't terribly realistic but it looks nice and suits the game stylisticly very well.

The Battlestations: Midway water is very nice but I think two things are missing: there should be an animated texture map on there that represents slime, algae and general debris in the water. Along with that ther should be a matching reflectivity map that modifies the shinines slightly (less shiny where there is a lot of mud/debris/whatever). Obviously that would be quite costly and may not be feasible in a game yet (two more textures and both animated, although simple UV animation would be enough).

 

[Kaotik]

Half-Life 2

That's mercure, not water, and it's not even close to it.
Midway, Virtual Skipper 3, and Pirates of XXI are really close to what one should call water.

IMO that's a bad example of HL2 water

 

[Spaceman-Spiff]

Half-Life 2

That's mercure, not water, and it's not even close to it.
Midway, Virtual Skipper 3, and Pirates of XXI are really close to what one should call water.

edit: I don't think that is coming from Halo. That one is indeed from Halo.

Better Half-Life2 (Source) water shots:
- http://www.planethalflife.com/screenshot.asp?src=/half-life2/screenshots/24.jpg
- http://www.planethalflife.com/screenshot.asp?src=/half-life2/screenshots/17.jpg
- http://www.planethalflife.com/screenshot.asp?src=/half-life2/screenshots/hl2_022.jpg
- http://www.planethalflife.com/screenshot.asp?src=/half-life2/screenshots/hl2_026.jpg
- http://www.planethalflife.com/screenshot.asp?src=/half-life2/screenshots/hl2_054.jpg
- http://www.hl2fallout.com/screenshots/cssource/aztec_underpass?full=1
- http://www.hl2fallout.com/screenshots/cssource/cssource1_full
- http://www.hl2fallout.com/screenshots/screenshots/HL2_airboat2?full=1
- http://www.hl2fallout.com/screenshots/screenshots/gunship_reflection?full=1

 

[AlNom]

I smell an HL2 fan

Nice water, bad splashes (relative to the quality of the water i.e. it doesn't "match" well).

The CSS shots are not very flattering

Is there a setting for full reflections ? The helicopter isn't reflected in the one shot...

 

[KimB]

Personally, I think the #1 problem with water in games today is that the dispersion relation for water is not properly modelled. Modelling this dispersion releation is absolutely essential for anybody that intends to do anything but simple sine waves for water motion. Ripples and things really need to use the dispersion relation for them to look good.

Reflection is currently pretty darned easy to do, and so is refraction (though these may be a bit expensive, they're more than possible). So it's the animation that needs to be focused upon next.

 

[Cryect]

Truthly myself out of games I've seen like Wave Race: Blue Storm the best and its not so much for how it looks but for how it reacts and moves so well. Looking at water in FPS is kinda pointless, its more like lets throw some cool effects on it real quick but we don't actually care about how it moves (since they really don't ).

 

[Farid]

Personally, I think the #1 problem with water in games today is that the dispersion relation for water is not properly modelled. Modelling this dispersion releation is absolutely essential for anybody that intends to do anything but simple sine waves for water motion. Ripples and things really need to use the dispersion relation for them to look good.

Reflection is currently pretty darned easy to do, and so is refraction (though these may be a bit expensive, they're more than possible). So it's the animation that needs to be focused upon next.

Splashdown on PS2 had, back in the days, impressive water. And since it was on PS2, it wasn't, obviously, fragment programs or the likes, therefore it must have been polygons of some sort...

Here's some pics (some are from framebuffer, others, logically, are not)

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link3

 

[KimB]

Well, they should have been able to do a good job. If you're only modelling objects moving forward in a straight line, you could have a pre-baked wave animation. It's the more general problem that's hard.

 

[pat777]

Well, they should have been able to do a good job. If you're only modelling objects moving forward in a straight line, you could have a pre-baked wave animation. It's the more general problem that's hard.

What kind of racing game wouldn't have turns except for drag racing games that are extremely rare? Also, notice the ramps. Boats can jump and land in the water. They didn't just do a good job for straight lines.