chavvdarrr
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Yes, impressive, that is the word.
But useless.
movie as a desktop background, WOW, how impressive!
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But useless.
movie as a desktop background, WOW, how impressive!
Vista
Ultimate x64
smooth?
yeah, on Conroe + 2GB ram it IS smooth. Even VMware 6.0 beta works fine
with 1GB on dual P4@3.0 its painfully slower than XP with full amount of "things" installed
You didn't mention what video you're using though... I've got a Dual 2.8Ghz Prescott with a gig of ram (Dell Optiplex GX620) with a crappy X1300GS 128mb PCI-E video card and it's fan-f'ing-tastic. It performs better on this box than XP does...
So either you've got some REALLY terrible video (I noticed on my test R50 with a Pentium-M 1.4ghz and 1GB of ram and 7500 AGP 32mb card) is a bit pokey, but mostly due to the video.
chavvdarrr
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X1300Pro 256MB on P4, 7300GT on Conroe platform
I'm talking about scenario where one has lots of stuff like Skype, IM, Outlook, Opera+10 tabs, AV, etc and on top of that try to run 1-2 VMs. THEN its slower.
Which VM software are you using, out of curiousity? I've had a LOT of stuff running on my pokey machine, but I've only had one VM at a time running. I'm also using the VMWare Beta 6 which is A: quite boggy and B: quite beta...
I hear that MS's Virtual Whatchamacallit may work better, but if you're already using it, then I don't know. Outlook, IM, Skype and AV I know all work flawlessly, along with lots of tabs open in IE7 (don't use Opera myself)...
Cartoon Corpse
Veteran
does vista upgrade invalidate your XP license? (can't use it again) How does that work, if you need to restore? can you never go back to xp?
when i go, should i go 64bit? (i have 64bit rig now) (is it as solidly backed up as 32 bit?...everything runs?))
is ATI's Vista card out yet?
will a dx10 card still run dx9 games? work on an xp rig? (without dx10).
when i go, should i go 64bit? (i have 64bit rig now) (is it as solidly backed up as 32 bit?...everything runs?))
is ATI's Vista card out yet?
will a dx10 card still run dx9 games? work on an xp rig? (without dx10).
I might as well chime in here. I run Vista x64 (Business, if that matters) on an Intel D975XBX, 4GiB mem, Core 2, GeForce 8800, and 6 (count 'em!) HDDs on two controllers in 3 modes. It installed fine, no issues, and all my hardware is supported (although with the XP x64 drivers for my Sil3114 RAID controller). There's even a SATA DVDRW in my box that works fine too.
I run all manner of apps -- VS2005, DW8, PS CS3 Beta and VMWare 6.0 beta (running a mix of 32-bit and 64-bit guest OSes) being the notable heavyweights -- which when I'm asking the most of the box consume almost all physical memory, so the box gets a serious workout.
And it's all been fine, not a single BSOD (which when writing D3D10 code for G80 is something of an achievement), nor any hiccup that I can attribute to Vista. Infact an early G80 driver is the only thing that's given me grief (Aero perf on the 2nd head was pants, latest driver fixes), since then it's been plain sailing and Vista is pretty sweet as an OS and a nice step up from XP (when you turn off UAC at least )
So it's not all bad on the 64-bit Vista side of the fence.
I run all manner of apps -- VS2005, DW8, PS CS3 Beta and VMWare 6.0 beta (running a mix of 32-bit and 64-bit guest OSes) being the notable heavyweights -- which when I'm asking the most of the box consume almost all physical memory, so the box gets a serious workout.
And it's all been fine, not a single BSOD (which when writing D3D10 code for G80 is something of an achievement), nor any hiccup that I can attribute to Vista. Infact an early G80 driver is the only thing that's given me grief (Aero perf on the 2nd head was pants, latest driver fixes), since then it's been plain sailing and Vista is pretty sweet as an OS and a nice step up from XP (when you turn off UAC at least
)So it's not all bad on the 64-bit Vista side of the fence.
What's a "Vista Card"? Every DX9 card since Radeon 9700 is supported under Vista; the majority of boards are Vista Premium compliant.
:smile:
As for the initial thread - Vista x64 has been up and running now for a few weeks, and its been exceptionally stable when running. I'm really rather taken with it for general use - its fast, and looks good.
I'm still not sure what the initial issue with the install actually was - it was either the P4EE that I was using, or it still might be the disk controller. Even though the OS is installed, fully operable and stable when running, I did try changing the disk controller operation in the BIOS from "Enhanced IDE" to RAID and the system fails to load into Vista then.
Sniping - No, I hadn't see those downloads from Intel yet. Although I'm not exactly sure what they really are yet, they certainly seem like they are worth investigating further.
{Sniping}Waste
Regular
They look like ATA controller updated drivers for Windows installs. Its for floppy disks and used when you hit F6 key to load host disk controller (Scisi) drivers.
I tried to install the 64 Bit version of Ultimate but it seems like Vista hated my Audio devices (onboard and Turtle Beach card)
I'm now chugging along with the 32 Bit version of Ultimate and am now using Dreamscapes for my Desktop background
I'm now chugging along with the 32 Bit version of Ultimate and am now using Dreamscapes for my Desktop background
I had a dig around in this last night.
The .inf installs for:
Intel(R) 82801FR SATA AHCI Controller
Intel(R) 82801FBM SATA AHCI Controller
Intel(R) 82801GR/GH SATA AHCI Controller
Intel(R) 82801GBM SATA AHCI Controller
Intel(R) 631xESB/632xESB SATA AHCI Controller
Intel(R) 82801HR/HH/HO SATA AHCI Controller
However, although I have an 955X chipset with ICH7 southbridge, the exact controller name is:
Intel(R) 82801GB/GR/GH (ICH7) SATA AHCI Controller
So it won't match. Device ID doesn't correlate to anything installable either.
I have an ICH7R on my mainboard too, with four disks attached. Two are standalone in AHCI mode, two are in a RAID0 array using the Matrix RAID.
Vista install saw the standalone disks fine, and the RAID0 volume as unpartitioned space. So when I had installed Vista (I didn't want to install to the RAID0 volume so that was OK) I just installed the Matrix RAID driver so it could see the array there.
So Vista has native support for ICH7 as far as I'm concerned, at least for my mainboard and its device IDs!
Vista install saw the standalone disks fine, and the RAID0 volume as unpartitioned space. So when I had installed Vista (I didn't want to install to the RAID0 volume so that was OK) I just installed the Matrix RAID driver so it could see the array there.
So Vista has native support for ICH7 as far as I'm concerned, at least for my mainboard and its device IDs!
Been running Vista 64 ultimate at work since launch and it's been all good. This is on a Dell E521 with AMD 5000+ and x1300pro. Dell even had proper sound drivers! Vista + Office 2007 is a pretty good combo so far. Even though it hogs up RAM, the system itself is quite fast and doesn't seem to "leak" mem over time like XP did.
I'd install it at home but I have no faith in Creative to get proper Audigy 2 drivers out for Vista
I'd install it at home but I have no faith in Creative to get proper Audigy 2 drivers out for Vista
I don't know what Creative have been doing with Audigy, however I've been running the Beta X-Fi Vista x64 drivers with no issues so far.
What about the problem with EAX not working under Vista unless creative has an Open AL wrapper for the game?
Yeah, I'm still curious what's up with that decision. They made video offload more efficient, enabled far-better ways to hardware accelerate network stack functions, even better functionality and support for hardware accelerating disk functionality... Yet, they also decided that full-software implementation for sound was the appropriate choice?
Duuhhhrrr...
I think that they simply realised that sound-card drivers are crappier than almost everything out there, thanks to Creative`s sustained efforts and chose to stop the madness. Now they can happily crash for some obscure reason without messing with Windows(I`m kidding...somewhat)
Blazkowicz
Legend
eh, why not. you don't see MPEG 1 or JPEG decoder cards around, right. (yay I saw a JPEG ISA card in a old magazine, with VGA pass-through cable I think!). CPU are fast enough to process HD video in real time, so why not a few channel of measly sound.
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