Value of Hardware Unboxed benchmarking *spawn

[DavidGraham]

Provide a link of them ever saying FSR 1 or even 2 is equivalent to DLSS.

Sigh, here it is, they say here that "FSR1 and DLSS2 are competitive, one is not necessarily better than the other"!

Here they say FSR1 in reality is pretty decent and is competitive with DLSS2 at times! Then they claim FSR1 Ultra is close to native rendering and the IQ of FSR1 is only marginally behind DLSS2!

And about FSR2, here they have the thumbnail claiming it's a DLSS killer, without even testing any games!

Here they claim they are almost the same in Deathloop.

Please stop repeating their arguments ad nauseam, you just said DLSS2 and FSR2 offer the same performance, I provided a link disproving that, then you claimed they never said FSR1/FSR2 is equal to DLSS2, I provided several links proving they did. I hope you are now satisfied.

 

[DegustatoR]

In the Witcher 3 he did start enabling hairworks as a default once GPUs became more performant.

Which is a different way of saying that he started enabling HW once it stopped being a problem for AMD h/w in comparison to Nv. Which is a very weird thing to do for benchmarking, but still, if we apply the same logic to FSR2 then FSR2 does have a performance problem on non-AMD h/w. It will always have it because it doesn't use the h/w features of said h/w.

True, but that isn't a perfect proxy for reconstruction either because each solution has a potentially different (and non-trivial) cost, and I believe some post-processing effects are applied in the final reconstructed space, so their costs are proportional to final upscaled resolution.

Yeah but as I've said it is better to do "reconstruction benchmarks" less often than just use FSR2 in all benchmarks. The latter is straight up misleading.

Doesn't DLSS performance mode provide the same image quality as FSR quality mode at 4k?

Kinda, depends on a title. But yes, this is a valid point too.

Btw HUB's Hogwarts Legacy coverage is completely different from everyone else's - again. It's like Steve is specifically searching for areas where AMD does better than Nv in games he tests.

 

[pjbliverpool]

DLSS and FSR performance are typically within 1-2% of each other on an NV GPU.

Yeah see the first post in this thread. 1%-2% can be the difference between the NV GPU being faster or the AMD GPU being faster.

Although I guess they could always throw in another CoD MW2 test at different settings to swing the overall average back

 

[techuse]

Sigh, here it is, they say here that "FSR1 and DLSS2 are competitive, one is not necessarily better than the other"!

Here they say FSR1 in reality is pretty decent and is competitive with DLSS2 at times! Then they claim FSR1 Ultra is close to native rendering and the IQ of FSR1 is only marginally behind DLSS2!

And about FSR2, here they have the thumbnail claiming it's a DLSS killer, without even testing any games!

Here they claim they are almost the same in Deathloop.

Please stop repeating their arguments ad nauseam, you just said DLSS2 and FSR2 offer the same performance, I provided a link disproving that, then you claimed they never said FSR1/FSR2 is equal to DLSS2, I provided several links proving they did. I hope you are now satisfied.

In very specific scenarios he said FSR can be competitive with DLSS. Even in your provided links he follows it up with DLSS being superior in general though. It's a thumbnail with "attempt #2" in parenthesis.

 

[DavidGraham]

In very specific scenarios he said FSR can be competitive with DLSS. Even in your provided links he follows it up with DLSS being superior in general though. It's a thumbnail with "attempt #2" in parenthesis.

They don't, they generalize, they keep pandering to whatever AMD puts through, and try to twist words to make it equal to DLSS2 as best as they can. Even in your claimed specific scenarios their analysis is wrong, FSR1 is so hopelessly behind DLSS2, it's not even close.

 

[techuse]

They don't, they generalize, they keep pandering to whatever AMD puts through, and try to twist words to make it equal to DLSS2 as best as they can. Even in your claimed specific scenarios their analysis is wrong, FSR1 is so hopelessly behind DLSS2, it's not even close.

In every review he mentions DLSS as one of the strongest reasons to go NVidia.