Usergroups and Promotions

"Of late" I had (past tense, note) done nothing but voice valid complaints/criticisms/questions. Unfortunately, due to my (unfortunate, again) history with this site, folks raise their swords at me. I personally think these folks forget I'm just a participant here now and cannot, or would not, forget what happened.

As for my rep being still green, I care very little about it (like I have said) for the simple reason being that tt is quite amazing to see how much reputation certain participants here have been awarded. My very humble opinion, of course. You never know the definition of "reputation" anyway when it comes to a public forum (i.e. what is most/more important when it comes to what counts).

Anyway, I hope this post of mine won't make folks reduce my rep

 

I think after 1 year of posting if your green you should have the reputation turned off. After 1 year of posting if your red it should stay on .

Hell i think if your red and have a low post count / time on the boards a mod should take 5 minutes out and read the comments and see if the person should even post here anymore . There are about 8 people on the console forum all at around 300 posts or lower and have joined since sept that have been red since thier second post

 

How about the people who effectively got their accounts hacked and given -200 points from in excess of 500 (which are now -106 thanks to you guys). The fact that the owner of the site did it doesn't make it less of a hack job than it is. As i've mentioned in very angry private messages, i couldn't care less about the points themselves, but their little "punishment" reverted my membership to "something" else, making my private messages inbox smaller (from 500 to 50 allowed messages), and DELETING all the messages i had saved there, even the ones i had there for years (Natoma if you're reading this, yes even some of the ones i saved from our old discussions).
And let's not get into the discussion of "why punish just me and silence" which has been covered and never answered properly.
Personally i think i got caught in the fire between silence and the management, and i don't like it at all, especially considering i'm not your usual newbie who signed up 9 days ago to post about OMG X360 IS THE DOG BOLLOCKS!!!11

And who do you think made it that way...

I'm no mod, but i for one can say that i did a good job at making some people red, for good reason. The red guys in the console forum are red because they have bad reputation and should be "looked over" as Shifty said, because they do not contribute to the forum. In a sense, i made it easy to see the difference between the people you should pay attention to and the people you should ignore, or not give much attention to. And never did i do it based on company preferences that plague the Console Forum, as you can see red people from all "sides" of the "war"...
Some of the guys that have been banned, were banned because i either pushed for it, or "caught them in the act".
At the same time, i think i was one of the very few to give good rep to the developers, who should really be the first ones to get lots of good rep.

And what do i get in exchange? Delete all my private messages, i can't rep anyone, i lost all the good rep i got for all the good reasons (it's not like silence gave me 700 points is it).

Obviously the management didn't notice that and found it funny to take away sevenhundred points of rep i got for GOOD reason (silence might have given me 50 points in TOTAL, if even that, since he could only give away 4 or 5 at a time).

I had good rep because i have a good reputation on this site, not because silence happened to be very trigger happy. Obviously that wasn't enough.

Even the fact that people are saying to me "Don't worry, you'll be back to the top soon enough" should be reason enough to see that people (not silence) give me good rep, for all the good reasons. Silence might have been abusing the system, i don't know and i don't care, i certainly wasn't, or at least i wasn't abusing it any more than many other people were. At least i thought i was doing a good job in the console forum, as i've already explained.

Those actions and ungratefulness (to some extent) pushed me out of these boards (as you might have noticed), which in the end might just have been the whole point of the hack, without having to ban me for some reason. But we're getting into conspiracy theory realms now so i'll stop.

It's the irrationality of this whole incident that really pisses me off, regardless of how many bloody points i have, the whole approach is just not logical, whatever way you look at it.

(this wasn't a reply directed to you jvd, hope you got that)

 

Perhaps in part. But we're not exactly talking peer review here, thus high quality content may go 'unrewarded' while posts than are easier to relate to on a more personal and immediate level (funny, shared opinions or preferences, direct questions answered, cool screenshot, whatever) get the 'reputation'.

I'd like to see what share of the reputation handed out is given in the 'off topic' forums, and in particular RPSC.

My guess: Most of it.

 

Very true. I get more positive rep for jokey posts and more negative rep for raising technical questions! It's a bit like politics. The guy who gets elected is the nice guy who everyone likes, regardless of his capacity to doa worthwhile job. It was interesting to hear Americans voted JFK the best President ever, beating Washington and Lincoln and others, and then hear how little Kennedy actually contributed and how much he covered up and PR'd his way into people's hearts.

 

You didn't deserve your good rep London Boy.

You got it because you're pro-Sony, not because you earned it.

From what I've seen you're anywhere from a little annoying to trollish. Certainly not a super model citizen or whatever your rep claimed.

And by no means am I claiming I dont deserve my rep, either.

 

As i said, i got most of my rep points from other boards, not the console one, so really you should just shut the hell up and go back to the kids forum.

Your post shows perfectly why you have bad rep.


And to add to the fire, i just found out i can't delete my own messages anymore!!!

 

There's a lesson to be learned, london-boy:

don't get in a rep circle-jerk with the forum jerk. Especially when he ends up being a jerk to the forum owner.

 

I did tell him a few times to keep it down and stop giving me rep like it was cookies cause i didn't wanna be dragged down with him.

 

Of course, I have no idea how configurable the software is, and that's a pretty important fact. But from a pure "business requirements" pov, were I King of Rep, able to decree how it ought to work, I'd:

Limit squares and "Glorious beacons of spectacular known to jewels" to three on the green side and two on the red side. More in either direction is meaningless from a functional pov and just marginally engenders competitiveness and jealousy. (Please note I just limited me there. Why is that important? Because I need the cred to say the next thing. )

Limit the effect of post count in giving rep to 7 thousand, 2 points above "Regular". Our much beloved Regulars with mondo posts should get those two extra points, but not unlimited points --it does bias the results a bit too much towards the sensibilities of a few.

But, yeah, I do think the mods ought to cull the reds once a quarter or so. Not automatically, but more in the way our underwriters at work do --as the list to start from and review. I would hope they do, but I have no evidence of it --just that the heavy greens are being reviewed for their appropriateness. In the inbetween times if a Red comes to their particular attention as problematic, their comments/rep/posts attached to are also available for them to review what to do about them.

I really don't know what Wavey saw in detail with silence & l-b, but it did occur to me that knocking offenders back to +10 (i.e. ground zero) might have been punishment enuf and avoided some side effects. We're a pretty observant lot around here, it's not like we needed the Red to notice it had happened. Unless, of course, it was the giving of bad rep that was the problem; to give a "vacation" from that would require they no longer be SM or Regular for awhile.

 

What he saw was silence giving me good rep almost once every two days, and me giving him rep not more than 5 times since this thing started if even that.
Not like i was asking him to give me good rep for god's sake!!! If i wanted my rep bumped, i'd have asked Digi to rep me up (before u go go)...

It's just stupid that (only) i should be dragged down with him.

Taking SEVEN HUNDRED points away from me was completely over the top and it caused me a lot of issues, as i've explained. If anything he could have taken off the points silence gave me, it wouldn't have been more than 50 as i've explained. Even if those were 100 points or 200 (which they weren't), it's nowhere near 700+ points.

All the other rep i got was mostly for good reasons. Hell, i got more than a hundred points just from my "I have a boyfriend!" thread, and that was all genuine good rep. As was the rest.

If he doesn't like people giving rep from the General Forum and Political Forum, then he should disable it on those forums and keep it for the others.

 

If I may leave my position at B3D aside...Silence claimed that you had asked him to give somebody negative rep points because you had hit your daily limit. If true, then to my mind that alone should result in you losing the ability to give rep points to other users; it's clearly overstepping the bounds of acceptable use of the rep system.

Well you don't actually do anything here though, yes? It's not as if you need this forum for a job or anything like that. You can still read and post threads which, quite frankly, is all anybody really needs here.

Perhaps so but the way that I see it, the rep system is only "affecting" a (very) small number of users - it seems to not be an issue for everyone else. Silence has chosen to move on, so it's no longer a problem for him and, as far as I'm aware, the only person with genuine cause for concern about it is yourself - yes, other people don't like but then I don't like RPSC board at all but that still remains because the majority wish it so.

I really don't get why people go into rant mode on discussion boards - seriously, other than venting anger, what exactly does it achieve? Still, if it makes you feel better then I suppose it's partially justified but other than, it's pretty much situation normal. People can still read, post and debate - the sole purpose of a discussion board; anything else are mere extras.

 

Thanks.

I claim that i showed silence (and someone else) a post from a user in the console forum which personally attacked me in a very outrageous way. Never did i say "bad rep him cause i'm over my limit"...

 

Do not underestimate the cathartic value of venting anger, and people who post tend to feel the need to express themselves/be heard more than most....venting is a GOOD THING™ in proper moderation.

Sorry, didn't mean to go OT but I felt someone should say it.

 

Oh yes. A good rant is very therapeutic so leave me be!!!

 

Hell, why do you think I post so much? I think ranting on the intraweb is the only thing that kept me sane thru the diaper years.

 

Oh yes.

Now, rep me up!!!




/runs

 

I was that someone else, and I did give the user bad reputation for his blatant attack as well as for his post history. (Yes, I check post histories before giving bad rep. I don't want to hit someone for a different viewpoint, but patterns of abuse are easy to spot)


I don't get why I didn't get spanked either, I've been feeling guilty and unworthy ever since.

 

Would if I could.