Usergroups and Promotions

It just seems a shame to me that the people who contribute the interesting technical stuff (even if they post only once in a blue moon) have their reputation swamped by gossipping fools.

Jawed

 

Yeah, but that shouldn't happen here...the people that contribute interesting technical stuff are at the top of my "give 'em a good rep rating!" list.

This system really could work if we make it work.

 

On the first page of the member list sorted by reputation, I can see Humus and nAo as people who make valuable technical contributions, and there's two or three people there who bring industry insights.

It's not in the least bit encouraging.

It seems to me that reputation is just a proxy-form of moderation, and has nothing to do with the actual quality of technical/industry discussion here. Shame.

As a newcomer to this site, it's actually fairly hard to identify who are the people who really know what they're talking about. Reputation would help.

I don't care if someone has a good line in toilet humour or knows the difference between a democrat and a republican.

It's early days for reputation, sure - but it would be a blessing if all the dross ratings were cleared out, and set an example.

Jawed

 

Same here I'm busy trying to poke holes ( and making myself look like a fool in process regards to the last 2 posts I've made )in humus' filtering method cause something about makes my spider sense tingle and I've given him a rep bonus clearly he is definatly contributed something worth wild and started something more then rumor mongoring.

I wouldn't agree with you here
Lets see how else
CATALYST MAKER?
John Reynolds I'm pretty sure here belongs here for one reason or another
Hanners moderator on IT and 3d sites as well as an article writer would have thought his position in the community would have been worth something
Pete runs his own hardware site doesn't here?
Uttar anything more needed to be said?

Thats atleast 2 more then you said it appears either you hold atleast 2 of those people not worth of having a good reputation or you just simply making stuff up to bash the system.

Now frankly the rep system hasn't been in long and there really hasn't been alot of technical posts recently so its not suprising no repped all the so called technical people you think deserve rep because they probably haven't posted much recently ( really what your expecting everyone to go through the entire forum all over again so they can rep people who deserve it? ).

I'm on page three number 2 ( so #62 out of non-regular members ) does that make me high enough to be a gossip fool?

Also some of those technical person have decided to hide their reputation which is probably another factor why they aren't showing up near the top i.e. OpenGL guy.

 

higher in the thread some kind guy suggested the idea on an amnisty

i think this is a good idea:

* we didn't know reputation would become somewhat important.

* even more, some of these people have bad reputation because some people were able to give them negative reputation whereas the same people wouldn't be able anymore to do that under the new rules.

i think all of this really call for an amnisty ! it would be fair.

because of some individual initiative i was amnistied, but for the other people like me ?

 

Bloodbob wrote: Thats atleast 2 more then you said it appears either you hold atleast 2 of those people not worth of having a good reputation or you just simply making stuff up to bash the system.

No, the people I could "identify" is simply a reflection of my noobness round here. And, actually, I silently counted Hanners as an "industry insider" but decided not to try to compile an insiders list too.

It doesn't change my argument, because the other people you've explicitly identified are indeed swamped by a lot of dross.

Oh, and Bloodbob, if I haven't already recently given you a rep+1, then next time I visit the HDR thread I will... You're another person who should be on the first page.

I think a rep amnesty would be a great idea, if indeed rep is meant to relate to postings on core topics. I've stupidly, and over-enthusiastically given +ve rep points to posts on non-core topics, before seriously thinking about this whole thing - so if the rep system is indeed re-cast in a more favourable disposition then I think starting at 0 would be a good move.

Particularly as now the initial excitement at this feature is over. Isn't it?...

Jawed

 

My 2 cents, as a "registered" member.... this just plain sucks.

 

Me too, that man is getting contacts that I'm jealous of!

Why? (Seriously)

 

Not neccessary as clearly my posts in that thread are far from interesting so it don't meet your critera.

At the present point in time that would probably actually be a good suggestion since their are a few people around atleast who are stuck on registered and probably shouldn't be.

So has everyone else actually I've only done one + rep in the 3d core and all 5 reps I've gotten have been outside. However limiting rep to 3d only is a bad idea IMHO as it give no incentive for good behaviour outside of the 3d section. Though I'm quite happy for the post count to be 3d only since this is a 3d forum and the other sections are just optional participation IMHO.

 

Oh, I'm not a doctor. (There's a slim chance I'll write for a site soon, though.) The mere fact that I'm above Uttar and on the same page as the others shows the rep system--which I still don't fully grasp--is still in its infancy. Give it a few weeks, and you begin to see the wheat separate from the chaff (me, in relation to Beyond3D). I'm probably just the oldest member with the default 10pts.

I do like the little green rep bars, though. They add some much-needed colo(u)r to the sea of blue.

Speaking of rep points and my unfamiliarity with them, I'm not sure whether I should go thru the member list and give props to those who deserve them (look at, say, SimonF and aaronspink languishing on p.4), or just do so as I encounter their enlightening posts (has cthellis posted one of his hilarious spoof posts lately?). I think I'll hold off until I get a handle on the system. For instance, I gather from some posts here that rep points are allocated not just by member but by forum or even thread? That's fine-grained, baby! And too complicated for me. I'll just stick to watching for more tennis on a par with the incredibly entertaining Federer-Santoro match, for now.

Edit: Heh, *now* I see the rep points in my profile. Can't believe I've garnered a non-opposable handful already. Those of you who've given are making me feel guilty about choosing tennis over this small social experiment. Don't worry, you'll get yours, in due time.... Mwa ha ha, etc. ;^) Seriously, tho, I appreciate the comments.

 

Doubtful. I've been pretty much uninvolved in the technical forums for the past few years, and only post in the general group.

I don't think I should be at the top end of the reputation system of a technical forum for discussing non-related topics for the past 3 years.

That is, of course, if the reputation thing is supposed to represent 'worth to the central topic of this forum'.

 

Yeah, but I like you and bumped ya up before I knew how the system worked...so just deal with it.

 

yes it does.... we have two classes of members now.
i just wonder how long before "lower class" decides to move on and stop making posts and traffic, which makes $ from marketing....

B3D created great community.... but i dont like idea that every time i post as "second class" member i also make cash for this site.... sorry Dave, but Politics, General Disscusion and other parts make you hits and make this site wotk....

if you want this to be pure techincal site about 3D... go ahead....
remove whats not needed.

i think i'll take a break for few days.....

 

silence, have the changes reduced either the functionality of the forum or the impact of your posts? I don't understand your dim view of it. Heck, I didn't even notice the rep system and attendant changes until a few days after it was enacted, and then only because I thought this thread was referring to something else (which it was, obliquely). Post count has and will never mean anything to anyone but the "******s" you refer to, so who gives a flying digi?

Digit! I meant middle digit!

BTW, I didn't realize you were so attuned to this site's finances. AFAIK, B3D is still a hobby of Dave's, not his sole employ.

 

Damn it, one of those rare times where there is a great opportunity for some one-liner humor and me words fail me.

 

Problem, I can't.

 

totally agree with that, especially since ive been a member for over a year.

seriously though, do i really fit the profile of a spammer, around 140 posts, so thats about a post every other day, i believe the system should still have benefits for users who have been registered a fare while and not have needed to post 1000's of messages.

 

Monty - we've all been there. I suggest anyone having a problem with their title / status to do what is necessary to change it.

*hint* posting / arguing in this thread won't do it, especially since post counts are disabled in this part of the forum..

 

Actually... It might. It isn't his postcount doing him in, it's the reputation, and there are examples in this very thread with people getting theirs bumped by a friendly Senior Member just for asking why they couldn't access their PMs or some such. So obviously; not reading the first page of a sticky - and then complaining about it - have been rewarded in the past.

 

Hmm, I can and I'm only a senior member.