Two new HL2 Movies...

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    ROFL, you gotta be joking... unless you have worst scores for D3, you gotta be joking.

    :lol: :lol: :lol:

    The last 2-3 years most flatten, single-minded story is D3 - with technically zero AI. 5 years old trigger-switching technique, LOL... :lol:
     
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    How many dimensions does your display device of choice support?
     
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    ? I wouldn't think I'd have to spell out the difference between running compiled frames in an animation playback (like Blink) and running a 3d-game engine (like Source)...;) So I'll just assume you misunderstood my original statement...:D
     
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    Please do. I'm curious.

    No, I understood what you're trying to say, I just don't agree with it. Therefore my question:

     
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    Honestly, I'm having so much fun in FC that the shortcomings you mention are hardly even noticeable. Also, I'd like to know what existing games have much better AI and graphics than FC.

    And HL2 is an easy bet - given the amount of hype there is no way it could deliver at a level to bring up that quality/hype ratio. Hype about Far Cry was pretty much non-existent before its release and it delivered enjoyable gameplay in spades.
     
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    I don't really disagree with you but I think what they are trying to do is make you think the floor is dirty in some areas which would explain the non-constant illumination. And this I think is what makes it look kewl. I could be wrong though and maybe there is a problem there but my first impression was a very dirty/bad(meaning the floor is supposed to look bad) floor.

    US
     
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    Better A.I.? Sadly, no one seems to know how to make good A.I.

    Instead of shooting where they think I am, the run TOWARD where they think I am, so I that I can easily mow them down one by one. PATHETIC!
    I could do this in ANY area with trees - it was a glaring issue. The trigens, considering they're SUPPOSED to be genetically enhanced, did little more than jump around and -- this is something I thought DooM 3 did better -- failed to dodge any of my incoming shots.

    The graphics are subjective; I personally didn't like the overly plastic look of Far Cry's characters and textures. If they left an option for turning off the specularity (or tuning it down -- ala DooM 3), it would've been more bearable. Instead, it's more like a "look - we can do cool effects!" deal than a "this will make the game look better" one. (Though I will admit that worked on me for the first few hours of gameplay.)

    Hype is not a determining factor in what I expect of a game. A good game is a good game, and I fully expect HL2 to be a superior experience. If they fail to deliver on that, then shame on them. A bad marketing/PR department doesn't necessitate a bad game. (That is, unless you let them put your expectations up so unbearibly high that you'll ALWAYS be disappointed.)
     
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    OT I'm at work on an OSX. both those movies are zipped exe's.

    How the f**k am i going to see them?
     
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    Download the corresponding Bink Player: http://www.radgametools.com/bnkdown.htm
     
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    :shock:

    Dunno what kind of chicken level you're playing on but it's definitely BS if you're playing on the highest.
    Most of the cases they move tactically perfecly: 4-5 guys immediately spread around you and then come from different directions. Some of them never stops running and the trees/bushes make pretty hard to get a clear shot.

    LOL. "Think different", not only the easiest level...

    ROFL.... this whole D3 vs FC comparison in terms of AI is sooo ridiculous - doesn't worth any serious reply, frankly.

    Khm.
    I much better appreciate when instead of an unbalanced, ill-designed game ("Look, what a friggin' cool shadowing/lightnin, Ma! No AI, zero story, 5-ys old triggering, shitty textures, cube heads but look, what a kool shadows! Pitch black and like fightning in a walk-in closet, pretty boring maps and 'noisy', mediocre sound mixing but look, WHAT A FRIGGIN KEWL SHADOWS, MA!") somebody rather balanced out everything. Since there's no flawless game, it makes much more sense than write something "revolutionary" :roll: and fuck-up everything else in the game.
    If I'd have to choose between story, gameplay, AI and gfx, I would give the same amount of attention, thoughtfulness for EACH - instead of spending 3 years out of 4 creating a shadowing and then finally coming up with 5 ys old AI, hands-without-fingers modelling, really shitty environmental textures.

    Reverend said somewhere he thinks JC made the good compromises - which is REALLY ridiculous, a real bullshit. He made a fully unbalanced game in my understandings because - I don't know but I'm almost sure about it - he went WAY over budget (in terms of time as well, of course) and probably produced way less than they originally planned. If not, that's a bad news for them - that means somebody really needs some reality check over at id.

    Back to topic: I don't know what kinda compromises been made by Newell but I really hope it's not gonna make another D3... if HL2 will be another fiasco, I'm not gonna buy anything 'til next Spring, seriously. :evil:
     
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    THANKS!
     
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    D3 graphics look much better imo. Doom3 wasn't boring at all!! What is wrong with you people!?!? :p :p :p
     
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    LOL
     
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    People should try FC on the hardest level and Auto Balance AI disabled before they judge the AI. Also notice that on slower CPUs the AI is toned down a bit. I agree on the shinyness though.
     
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    My feelings, exactly but add to the list "no flashlight mounted on the weapons" (I know there're mods) and "LOOK, a magical secret door opened behind the doom guy!".
    Doom 3 adds little more to a pretty benchmark and I consider it a "Doom 1 as it was ment to be" title.
    No doubt that graphics are very well done and the Alien/Doom fans will rejoyce, but I'll stick with the Gamespot score for this game: ~8.5.
    Even my wife was much more impressed with Far Cry graphics ;)
     
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    A girl likes palm trees and pretty birds and fishes more than dark scary corridors with hellborn demons lurking at every turn :shock: :lol:
     
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    More importantly, she doesn't know dynamic shadows are extremly difficult to make, and thus doesn't care about them....

    She'd probably think the Doom3 shadows were too dark, and not soft enough.
     
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    The problem with Far Cry on the hardest settings is the amount of shots to kill the AI gets unrealistic. Oddly the 'realistic' setting has probably the least realistic weapon damage of all the difficulty settings. It's mostly because body armour, shields and helmets are too effective in my opinion.

    I played it through on challenging when I completed it, which was about right in terms of overall difficulty (apart from the issues mentioned above).

    Crytek should be commended for at least trying to do some decent AI though - imagine how poor a job the Doom 3 AI would do in open areas like in Far Cry. Still, Doom 3 is all about the atmosphere and tension and the unique look it has. The AI, although simple, is good enough to make the game fun for me.
     
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    You shouldn't assume guys :roll:
    Anyway, it's not my/her opinion alone. 2 out of 3 people I know that have played Doom 3 said the same; it's pretty, it's doom, nothing else.
    You can't call Doom 3 a good AI. It's "very basic", monsters just spawn out of nowhere and try to shot at you if you aren't close. Big deal!
     
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