The NEXT LAST R600 Rumours & Speculation Thread

Discussion in 'Pre-release GPU Speculation' started by Geo, Mar 1, 2007.

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  1. Sound_Card

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    Ye. saw that 10 minutes ago but still have to wonder if it will be that good.

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    I wouldn't be suprised clock for clock in certain circumstances (most general usable) barcelona will be faster.
     
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    Well according to HFR:
    - the X2900 XT 512 MB is priced 399$
    - the X2900 XTX is still not a sure product
    - the R600 is a little late mid may vs early may
    - the RV630 and RV610 are late: available in june

    So the simultaneous launch/availability seems quite compromise.

    http://www.hardware.fr/news/lire/12-04-2007/
     
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    There actually was some (SPEC) benchmarks of Barcelona a while back, and in those it was indeed faster than Core2's on most cases at least.
    Of course, how that translates to realworld performance is yet to be seen
     
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    Hmmm I hope this isn't just the same rumour making the rounds. But if it is coming from multiple independent sources then it's probably true. I just don't understand how they are going to scale performance down from $400. There isn't a lot of room there.
     
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    AMD's been very non-specific about what numbers and what tests they actually ran.

    The only (kind of) hard numbers are SPEC rates, which are more measures of scalability. With a platform designed for quad-core, this is not much of a surprise.

    What it means for gamers who have apps that don't really do two threads all that well is a good question.
     
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    I could see an X2900 with 512MB RAM having a list price of around $400. After all, an 8800 GTS with 640MB RAM had a list price of $449, and is now selling for probably $100 lower than that. Especially at that price, it would be a really great value.

    One advantage that ATI has in going with the 512bit bus is that they can save money on RAM while still having massive bandwith. It won't be easy for NV to counter until they move up to a 512bit bus, unless they have some other trick up their sleeve.
     
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    Independant and reliable source as stated in the news. Well, i don't know, perhaps being late means being quite agressive in terms of price....
     
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    Being late is a bummer for AMD/ATI. If the R600 was ready a few months ago, then the X2900 512MB model probably could have sold for much higher margins with $500-600 MSRP.
     
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    I don't see why it can't sell for that much now if performance is there. There is still a pretty big market out there waiting to step up.
     
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    http://www.fx57.net/?p=576

    If these tests are true, it's very strange to see XT being so much slower than XTX, maybe clocks are consistently lower.

    Or, the XT could be what GTS is for GTX.
     
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    They didn't say the XTX is "not a sure product" they said it's uncertain whether it will launch at the same time as the XT.
     
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    I wonder if they might not just release R650 earlier to fill this gap. Arg.... too many possibilities...
     
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    That sounds better to me :)
     
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    so now the rumors are that it wont be a 'unified launch'? this just gets better and better.
     
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    This sort of wait for the R600 is reminding me of when the first star wars episode.... meaning episode 1 was coming out....all the anticipation.
     
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    My memory is not what it used to be, but not only would such delay be a first, it would also not explain why R600 was delayed if OEMs ordered all those RVxxx chips.

    So AMD made more money by not selling chips? And OEMs don't care that they are getting what amounts to second-rate product (R600@80nm)? Again, I don't see how this got AMD ahead, financially.

    Personally that does not seem likely to me, but we'll see.
     
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