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AFAIK crossfire capabilities are built into the die...but the UVD (Xilleon chip) part...That makes sense.

We keep hearing about how they will be separate and there is a "independent video processor" (I assume meaning a separate chip alongside the RT200 and R600), without UVD functions effecting graphics performance. It would make sense if that was a Xilleon-like chip off-die for those purposes. Had the RV550 seen the light of day, it might be easier to state with certainty if that's the case with what that chip is or not.

Sounds like a good assumption though.


edit: Just out of curiosity, could the audio subsystem mentioned on the Xilleon 260 be also what we're hearing about pertaining to the R600/RV6xx series? Would the audio system used in a TV/Home theater work similarly to that used in PC applications via a sound card?

 

So has everyone decided that these schematics sat on that site for 3 1/2 weeks without being noticed, but that doesn't matter because they are "accurate looking"? I'm just playing 's advocate a bit here. The BS level has been awfully high; it just seems prudent to question everything.

I don't know anything about that particular site; that doesn't mean that they didn't get hold of some new information, it just seems strange that the article was dated 2/27/07, and no one noticed these R600 schematics until someone posted the picture in the forum. No offense to the poster of the pic is intended - it's merely a sincere desire for more information (such as the source of these schematics).

 

Someone probably noticed them but just didn't know what to make of them. Granted they could be fake but I haven't noticed any glaring mistakes yet. I wondered about the validity as well when I first saw the article and date.

 

Ok this is just a random thought....
But...

If the consumer release is going to be 65nm, ie R650 or whatever, the chip will be significantly smaller.
Now also can't we assume the old leaked shots of the chip were definitely 80nm. This chip was rotated...

Would the new chip be small enough to not have to be rotated, and even if it still is rotated, would it be measurable on that third party water cooling kit? I wouldn't imagine 3rd parties are making water coolers for OEMs if only oems are getting the 80nm part..

Sorry if this has been mentioned already...

 

Are you saying that because you want to buy R600-XTX and making your decision right now; thinking either it is worth the wait for R600-XTX or just to go ahead and buy GF8800GTX anyway.

Does people care about R600 performance or afraid that it will out-perform G80. Or neither of the options, but just out of curiosity.

 

BZB will buy an 8800 GTX the day hell freezes over.

I'm pretty sure he's just curious.

 

Built-in feature in Opera, works faster too.

 

VR-Zone got the picture of the water-cooled XTX:

 

QFT! Opera here too m8.

 

For those using Mouse Gestures in FireFox, a simple right-click diagnol motion will zoom in on an image [upper-left to lower-right, ie: \ ]. It works well and is quick.

The reason I'm curious to have at least some info is I want to build a new system. I can use my current card and upgrade it later. The troublesome spot is the PSU. I don't know if I need a new PSU, and/or how the 8pin PCI-Express plug plays into it.

 

That's not completely fair. I'd be happy to give Nvidia my money (again) if they offer products and a business model that is what I want to pay for. I'd explain that a bit more, but it would be off-topic for this thread.

Isn't everyone? I am also intending to make a buying decision for "the big upgrade" as I jump to PCIe.

 

But is it also true that you could plug 6pin into 8pin connector for ATI R600.... "Technically you don't have to have 8pin connector"

 

But then you have to ...





... :shudder: use Opera

 

Only shudders of joy!

Opera's great. It has everything I could want. The new version 9 is great, check it our here. Sorry for the OT.

 

Now, let's hope that R600 is great as well

 

I'm more curious about the R600's equivalents performance to the 8800 GTS. I'm looking to spend $350 soon on a graphics card, and I want the best deal. Not only am I curious if the ATI card will be quicker and/or better image quality, but I'm hoping Nvidia's prices will fall too. It's getting so close to launch, I just want to know. If it would be 4 months, then I'd just go and purchase an Nvidia card.

 

I find hard to believe that ATI can produce a price competitive solution (unless they don't want to make much money). The 512-bit memory bus probably can't scale down that well, nor does the huge power consumption bode well for it either. Cutting the power consumption down to reasonably levels probably means a huge hit in performance. Same with going with a 256-bit memory bus.

 

Wow, when will these huge power consumption rumors die. It's like G80 rumors all over again. As has been reported numerous times R600 will aparantly run just fine on 2x6pin connectors, at least on the retail boards.

It may end up being more than G80 but not that much more.

As far as I can see that 8 pin connector could be for...

1. Being able to run with only 1 connector. So you could do a 1x8 or 2x6 for the same amount of power. I'm sure people with modular power supplies would love to only have to use one connector.

2. Rumor has it you can only use the build in ATI overclocker with a 1x8 and 1x6. However, I find this a bit odd and doubtful.

3. Who knows maybe they've been blowing air up our behinds and it actually does use a gajillion watts of power.

Regards,
SB

 

id pay a high price if it was a big jump over g80. id be the first person in line to buy 2 of em.

 

Heh, thought you hated PC games ice? You know R600 will just run them faster - won't make them look any better. That's a lot of money to spend on something you don't enjoy