The NEXT LAST R600 Rumours & Speculation Thread

Dell buys a lot from Nvidia too, let us not forget that.

 

If the drivers are in as good shape as at least I've understood they should be, AMD should see quite big wins on the OEM sector due nVidias driver situation, not limited to just Delll.

 

So, in short: No, the R600 isn't going to beat the 8800. As expected.

Although both will have their own strengths and weaknesses.

 

well the Ultra is coming and I think that $1000 price is there..........

 

At what point did we come to this conclusion?
There has been more and more suggestions, with some proper arguments behind these suggestions, that Gibbo or whatever his name was doesn't actually have R600 at all.

 

I've seen nothing stating that yet.
Perhaps they don't beat it in the time-to-market angle, but that should be it. Performance prospects look good so far.

 

I wonder how R600 512Bit memory vs. 384Bit memory G80 will perform @ super AA and including high resolution.
Probably resemble - similar comparison like 256Bit Radeon 9700Pro vs. 128bit Geforce 4 Ti4600.

 

At some point, casting for analogies to past generations ceases to be enlightening. I think we've long past that point.

Feh. Not much more tortuous suspense to endure, at least.

 

At your wise knowledge would you consider logically 100GB bandwidth could be eaten up near future with high demanding graphical games using extreme detail settings.

 

Extreme detail may also mean higher resolution textures in future games, in which case the amount of texture memory becomes even more relevant. That's why the 1GB R600 would have been useful to have a proper comparison at that level.
And since this first "R600 with GDDR3" appears to have "only" a 512MB frame buffer, versus the 768MB of a standard 8800 GTX, the bandwidth advantage may not be so overwhelming in actual game play.
G80 is not exactly starving for bandwidth as of yet.

 

I was actually talking about 1GB Memory R600 512Bit.
But I see your point!

 

I am neither wise nor knowledgeable (particularly about R600), but hasn't anyone benchmarked an 8800 with both stock and overclocked RAM? Otherwise, all I've got to go on are sites that have OCed the RAM along with the core, which isn't entirely useful when trying to determine bandwidth sensitivity. OCed 8800GTXs are hitting 100GB/s with 2GHz RAM, so someone with a card can definitely answer your question.

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As for R600XTX's purported 12k 3DM06 score, an upclocked 8800GTX seems capable of reaching that #, so that figure's not super-interesting in terms of fleshing out R600's strong points. Still, nice to know it'll at least be competitive.

 

8800gtx only seems to rly benefit from ocing the core. so its probably texture/fillrate/rop limited. not that surprising since with a 1.35 ghz shader core its unlikely any current games are gonna bottleneck it.

 

DT has the scoop:

http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=6903

320 SP's, 24x AA, 128bit HDR, among other juicy stuff.

 

You noticed it too, hey ?

 

24X AA? I hope this info is correct. It should be or Daily Tech's neck will be severed. lol

Maybe some of these game Gibbo has been testing has the AA settings at max, etc and so the HD2900XT's score is low or on par with the GTX but he is not really paying attn to the quality of the picture. Maybe the 2900's IQ is better but at the same FPS. Gibbo did say the 2900's image did look better and more vivid.

 

I don't doubt that AMD can compete with an XTX with that much memory, I am just saying that they missed out on an opportunity to get really high profit margins when their product was delayed and set to launch about 6 months after the 8800 GTX.