The Intel Execution in [2022]

Discussion in 'Graphics and Semiconductor Industry' started by BRiT, Jan 4, 2022.

  1. BRiT

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  2. PSman1700

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  3. Sxotty

    Sxotty Legend

    Funny that Intel thought they could skip UV and save a ton, but failed completely and now are the first in line to buy new ASML tools. I wonder if they will fail off the other end now. That would be a real kick in the pants to lose out twice for opposite reasons.
     
  4. pharma

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    Intel CPUs Continue To Reclaim Lead Over AMD Ryzen In Japanese DIY Market (wccftech.com)
     
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  5. Albuquerque

    Albuquerque Red-headed step child Veteran

    There's still such a large gap in AMD support in both the commodity and enterprise spaces. For two years now I've asked both our HPe and Dell server vendors to show me their Epyc-series server offerings in the 1u and 2u form factors, and both companies still end up castrating the AMD options.

    Example: Most of the hyperconverged boxes we purchase are at least 32 physical CPU cores at or around 2.6GHz, at least 1.5TB of ram, 24 SFF 12gbps SAS flash drives in the face connected to a proper dual port SAS controller card, along with a pair of twin-40Gbps network cards, usually a riser with a pair of either read-only SD or cheap NVMe drives for boot, and some sort of out of band management. My hope was to get a single-socket Epyc Rome CPU in there with 32 cores and the requisite clock speed, yet neither Dell or HPe could offer me one combined with the rest of the things I'm looking for. Dell doesn't even support the necessary power envelope to provide anything but the super-low-wattage 32-core CPU -- even in the 2U form factor. All this despite the fact I can cram a pair of 250W Intel procs into the same exact frame.

    I don't even have to start the bitching about how crap the AMD Ryzen offerings are in laptops either. I can probably count on one hand how many actually "good" laptops are available with Ryzen at their core -- modern, high quality screens with thin bezels and high refresh rates, high quality chassis that aren't pure plastic, thin profile with good cooling, high capacity batteries, good touchpads, etc. If you're buying an AMD laptop, you're getting some garbage from the Dell Inspiron E1505 era it seems like. Which was fine, you know, for 15 years ago. It's a disgrace today.
     
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  6. DegustatoR

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  7. PSman1700

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    Zen3 was and is a great (gaming) cpu, alder lake is just faster in every way, more modern architecture aswell with its devided core integration. Getting a new gaming system today (or for creation/multimedia etc) the intel cpus are the fastest available so it makes sense users opt for intel based systems. The adl laptops are the fastest for portable computing too.
     
  8. Dayman1225

    Dayman1225 Newcomer

    Intel released new roadmaps for their Client CPUs/dGPUs, server CPUs/dGPUs and process nodes at their investor day.
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    Slides can be found here
     
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  9. PSman1700

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    Intel sees the ever-growing and importance of the PC market, as shown in the slides. They didnt want AMD take that away from them lol.
     
  10. itsmydamnation

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    I know this is old , but you couldn't build this yourself in HPE OCA? i have totally been able to config servers for HPE and Cisco meeting your requirements ( Cisco only in the last ~ 8 months and they dont use every AMD/intel CPU model) using Zen2/3, i cant speak for Dell. lead time for servers is another matter but its not like icelake is any better.
     
  11. Albuquerque

    Albuquerque Red-headed step child Veteran

    The last time I asked was around the October / November timeframe - so about seven or eight months ago. At least at that time, I couldn't get a full combination of 32 decent-speed CPUs (Intel 2.6GHz equiv) into the same 2u box with 24 SFF drives in the face. It seemed like the full-face drive cage option was the big blocker for whatever reason. At this time we only buy HPe and Dell servers (DX380 and XC740XD respectively, both are "Nutanix nodes") for our primary datacenter workhorses. Cisco doesn't play in the Nutanix space, which is our preferred hypervisor now, and so we haven't used any of their M-series stuff in a long while.

    We aren't huge customers; we only go through about 6-7 million USD a year with both HPe and Dell combined -- so maybe a few dozen of those bigass 32c / 1.5TB / 96TB servers a year. Maybe this year AMD finally shows up in a useful way on the radar!
     
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