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Vapor chambers are probably heavy for a 600g device, and they'd take away precious battery space.
Manufacturers like MS (or Apple) could just put a vapor chamber on the inside of the metal enclosure that makes contact with the SoC, and thermal throttling would basically be a thing of the past. You could ratchet up the performance quite a bit further still with the improved cooling as well. A vapor chamber is dirt simple in its construction as well and very effective (Mac Pro uses three of them around its "thermal core" to dissipate upwards of 500W using a single fan/sink combo...)
You won't see Cherry Trail in smartphones. That's where something like Moorefield or SoFIA comes into play. Which should be able to handle desktop Office in a smartphone package. You just wouldn't want to run it on the smartphone screen, but on a desktop monitor hooked up to your smartphone.
It'll be interesting to see what Microsoft does with their Lumia line once Windows 10 arrives. I'm sure we'll have the usual ARM SOCs for them, but I'm wondering if they'll consider the Intel SOCs good enough to put into one or two Lumia phones.
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SB
Actually, you want it with WiDi so you can do wireless display with a bluetooth keyboard and mouse so that you can have your phone sitting on the charger and still be using it from your desk 10 feet away.I want a Surface phone. The 5inch phone in my pocket that I connect a USB keyboard and an MHL monitor to so that it becomes my x86 Cherry Trail desktop.
Buying an Android tablet somewhat side-steps the point though. If you're considering a surface on x86, the assumed point is that you're looking for x86 application compatibility in tablet form. That's the whole reason the "non-Pro" surfaces sucked for most folks, because simple customers came into it assuming it would work with their existing apps and then became frustrated when it didn't.Well screw you too Microsoft. I'll just buy something else from other brand, preferably something with Android now that you spat on my face.
Erm... I know.. Don't mind my mini-rant.
And I already own a chinese windows 8.1 tablet with a BayTrail. My only gripes with it are that its wifi connection is terrible so it's useless for Seam In-Home Streaming and the 3.5mm sound output is really, really bad.
Using a USB WiFi ac adapter and the integrated stereo speakers I get a rather good experience, though. The problem with using a USB dongle is that it's the same (only) port used to charge the tablet, so I can only use it for streaming for a rather short time.
I was confident that with this hardware and Windows 10, I was gladly ready to get rid of my Android tablet and the chinese tablet and use only one device. The 4GB version should even be good enough for keeping an Android Virtual Machine for some tablet stuff you can't get on windows.
But 730€ for the 4GB version?! I can get the better specced Dell Venue Pro 7000 with a Core M, 128GB SSD (not eMMC) and 4GB RAM for 660€ today. And at least its 150€ keyboard brings a secondary battery, it's not just an extremely overpriced piece of plastic.
For us europeans, Microsoft just priced this Surface 3 right into oblivion.
I'm just waiting for a site to post some battery test numbers. If it comes close to 10 hours, I'll get it. It's a bit expensive for an Atom device, IMO, and it doesn't have an option for a keyboard with extra, battery...but it has a much better aspect ratio than what I expect the competition (Windows Slates) to offer. And that aspect ratio is worth at least a 100-200 USD price premium in my eyes.
It's just a shame that the pen has to be purchased separately.
Regards,
SB
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