Supreme Commander @ E3

I think the biggest problem could be the amount of RAM.

 

4GB is cheap(-ish) these days and who knows, by early 2007 we may even have a meaningful version of Windows which is capable of supporting such incomprehensibly large memory capacities

With the large number of detailed and individually articulated units moving around, I wonder if this game might be quite stressful for the vertex processor side of the GPU.

 

My 2.2ghz A64 with 1GB RAM manages to get chunky with the original TA when it gets to about 3000 units active at once (with 10000 patch)...

This of course being part of the absolute genius of that game, that it is even capable of not looking stupid now (eg try playing starcraft now) while producing a better experience over time as you can throw better hardware at it coming up on a decade after release.

Edit: OMFG I just fired it up on my new 24 inch monitor & its running perfectly happily at 1920*1200!!!

 

Was there any info on the machine that was used in the vids? Even if it was cutting edge now that will be common come release time.

Ohhh ... please say he said "Dual core support" somewhere in there. Pretty please with finely crushed cpu's on top.

 

I always thought it had some limited form of hardware rendering?
Back in the days it used to be RAM limited when I had 256MB, will check again now...

 

Yeah that's what makes me think that SC might be vertex limited. Sure modern GPUs are inifinitely more powerful than Voodoo was, but then there's always the temptation for the devs to increase the number of vertices by infinity * 2 to compensate.

 

I thought this game was due out by the end of the year?

 

Thanks for the vids. I'd rep you if I could

The problem with OTA is the pathfinding AI gives out way before you reach any theoretical unit limit. You'll end up with tons of units blocking each other or ignoring orders.

Still, I get smooth gameplay with my 2.4GHz A64 @1280x1024 but with lots of units ON SCREEN it does get slightly choppy eventhough the game runs happily at speed +10 without automatically scaling back.

Interestingly there was an attempt of a remake in OpenGL (not SPRING! mind you) that used the the original resources still in 2D but with Zooming, so actually 2.5. It took care of the drawing problems (non-scaling GUI etc) but unfortunately was just a proof of concept. IIRC, the author mentioned that he would have needed full source to turn this into anything meaningful.

Another thing, TA apparently doesn't like A64's C&Q. It runs at 998MHz if it's turned on which gets pretty jerky at some point. Runs fine otherwise.



I remember in October '97 holding two boxes in front of me. The other one was AoE. Guess which I got

Looking forward to SC!

 

OT: C&Q, never got it to work with anything. When I installed the driver + let it run it didnt matter which game I was playing, it always ran the processor at half the clockrate.

 

http://www.supremecommander.com/ now has links to the official E3 movie at up to 1280 res

 

Intsall the driver but put it into desktop mode and not the one they tell you. Install CyrstaCPUID(I think @work ATM) and set up your options for delay time, multiplier, vcore etc . Still yet to have a problem with C&Q and any game or applictaion with this combo + Gives a lot of control in room that hits -5 to 50c ambient.

 

Too bad it's on fricken' fileplanet though.

Anyone got a mirror that doesn't require yet another useless registration to work?

 

Use the Fileshack one (though, I'm just about finished the third download that better friggin actually play this time)

 

That's one of my most anticipated PC game. All the previews I read about it made it sound better and better each time.

By the way, for the TA fans on the board, you might want to check the Open Source Spring project.

http://taspring.clan-sy.com/

 

Awesome. Is it me or is there something screwy with the shadows in some of the earlier sequences? They look all blocky and pixelated. Maybe it's just not finished yet.

 

Is TA spring properly playable yet?

 

yeah

yeah , definitly !