Starcraft II GPU performance/IQ

Even GTA4?

 

I played the beta on my Mobility 5870. It's actually quite demanding if you want 1920x1080. Frankly I was bored with the game because it's basically just old Starcraft redone in 3D. Pretty but very, very safe and not exactly innovative in my mind. I'm sure it will sell tens of millions of copies though.

 

No idea, never played it. It's quite well possible that there are games that don't work, just not any I have played. It even works in EVE Online with HDR enabled and Gothic 3. The point is, though, that there are quite a number of games in which you can enjoy AA with an Nvidia card while ATI users have to live with jaggies (if awkward .exe-renaming shit doesn't work).

 

Yeah I have had good luck with my GF 8800 for getting MSAA from deferred engines that had devs who didn't care about using DX10 MSAA features. ATI's control panel setup and 3rd party tweakers just don't hold a candle to what NV has.

Though honestly, while I do have a few recent Radeons around, I don't play games on them nearly as much as my 8800 so I haven't spent a lot of time trying to get AA out of the trouble games.

 

Being a Dx9 title shouldn't SSAA be forceable on ATI hardware? That doesn't really care what type of renderer is being used does it?

Regards,
SB

 

SSAA is only available on 5xxx Radeons...

 

Well the PCPer piece implies that there's absolutely no way to force AA on ATI cards, and considering they were using a GTX 460, I would assume they also used Radeon 5xxx cards.

So is there something specifically about SC2 that would prevent SSAA from working?

Regards,
SB

 

Really, could you name just one? I'm kind of familiar with what does/doesn't work with ATi, but nVidia not so much.

 

Good point.

Which is kinda silly. Given the development budget, it wouldn't have killed them to recompile it for DX10/11 especially considering how old DX10 is especially as that has been out for over 3 years now.

I cannot say really. Without all the facts all you have is speculation. Considering we don't know the specifics of the engine, its impossible to really say why this hasn't been done. I doubt that its due to their having not tried to get AA working.

 

It's not quite as simple as that. They'd still need some sort of profile to dictate which surfaces get forced to be multi-sampled and which shaders/passes get forced to run super-sampled. So yes it's possible but it would still require app-specific hackery from ATI which is always ugly.

The right answer is for Blizzard to just provide a a path for DX10.1+ hardware that does proper deferred MSAA.

 

I did. EVE Online and Gothic 3. There are probably many more but I don't own an ATI card, so I can't tell. Do you know games that don't work with ATI? Maybe I can tell you whether it works with nVidia.

 

AA works in Eve Online. There is only a problem if you enabled HDR at the same time, you got strange white dots on the 'roids...with MSAA. If you use SSAA, all is ok.

 

I don't get the white dots on roids with MSAA on ATI hardware with HDR. Eve Online runs fast enough in anything but super large fleet engagements that SSAA is the preferred choice anyways.

Last time Eve was unable to do MSAA + HDR on ATI hardware was before they axed Dx8 and made Dx9 the minimun supported version of DX. In other words, a long long time ago. And it was always able to do AA if you didn't use HDR.

Regards,
SB

 

I know nv is usually ahead of the game when it comes to profiles
eg: 257.21 (not the latest) includes profiles for bulletstorm, nfs world, mafia 2 ect

 

Probably, I remember ATI users complaining about it shortly after the graphics upgrade was released. And months later it finally worked. How nice.

Does it work now with driver settings or do you have to rename the .exe?

 

I would if I could! Supporting DX9 doesn't mean that they ought to ignore DX10 and DX11.

 

Demonstration or not, don't you think that lack of AA in 2010 is a major flaw?

 

The want it to run on 3+ years old computers...

 

you do mean eve online axed dx8 not ati ?