Star Wars: Empire at War (56k warning)

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  1. Guden Oden

    Guden Oden Senior Member
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    So this is set between III and IV. Oh-kaaayyy... Um, lemme just ask one question: what's the point of making a game that can't be won? :shock:
     
  2. Fox5

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    Who says it has to be fictionally accurate? Besides, maybe if you lose the alliance doesn't survive at all.

    BTW, where do the xwings come from?
     
  3. swaaye

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    The X-Wings, Y-Wings, B-Wings, A-Wings, Z95s, etc all come from a few rogue manufacturers out there somewhere in the galactic cosmos. These ships may also be just production fighters for bounty hunters, evil syndicates, other governments, and private use.

    The big Mon Calamari cruisers are converted luxury liners from the Calamarians. Corellian Corvettes are just captured ships, or bought I'd guess. The Nebulon-B Frigates are also captured/bought.

    Never understood why the Imperials didn't take care of these suppliers of capital ships and fighters immediately.

    The Rebels have a lot of nobles in their ranks, one reason why Alderaan was blown up. Rich planet with sympathizers.
     
  4. Fox5

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    If they blew up all the suppliers then who would build ships for the imperials?

    Or maybe the rebels just had a large supply of ships and did their best not to lose any.
     
  5. Gollum

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    While we're in the process of taking this OT:

    I'm no expert on the whole SW fiction deal, but I believe I own some common sense. You see, a galaxy is hell of a big place, so big in fact that even an empire with near infinite resources would find it impossible to fully control, or even just monitor, a significant part of it in a finite amount of time. Now, the main SW storyline takes part over a timespan of several decades at best IIRC (Ep I - VI), that isn't nearly long enough for the empire to take control of all major sectors, planets, industries, ... you get the point. The further you get away from their centers of power -> the less actual control they have -> the bigger the chance for opposition to hide and grow stronger.

    That's exactly what the Rebellion seemed to do to me, seek refuge in the rim regions of the empire, where their control is weak and they have time to flee or hide before any significant forces could be gathered to strike against them.

    The Rebellion and Empire were certainly not on even ground. The Empire had all major cards in their hands and the longer this dragged on, the less of a chance the Rebellion stood. But at least for a while (in case of a whole galaxy being your battleground that would be many years) I think its perfectly realistic to expect a reasonably organized and powerfull opposition.

    The timeframe between makes perfect sense in that regard IMO. The Rebellion probably took form after the events of Ep. III. By thetime of Ep. IV the Rebelion was already weak and not a long way from collapsing. The destruction of the Deathstars and death of the Emperor were really the last straw they could hold on to. If that hadn't worked out they would've been creamed over the next couple of years and it would have been a long time before anybody could ever again hope to challenge the Empire...
     
  6. jvd

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    There are the core worlds which were clearly in the empires pocket .

    But there were the outer rim worlds and then the unexplore areas and then places like kessel and even other remote places that could produce the ships
     
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    The Empire's ships are produced by its own manufacturers like Sienar Fleet Systems for the TIEs and Kuat Drive Yards for the cap ships. I'd imagine they have a FIRM FIRM grash on what those two are doing.

    The Rebel fighters are made by other companies, like I said, so they are likely REALLY huge companies that aren't extremely vulnerable to the empire (these futuristic mega-corps usually are like that).

    Leia mentioned systems "slipping thru your fingers" to Tarkin. Makes you think many systems were breaking away and supporting the Rebels. The Death Star was obviously a weapon designed for terror to stop thoughts of rebelling.

    So yeah, Gollum, I'd say you are right on.
     
  8. TomW

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    Do you mean sort of like this: http://www.lucasarts.com/games/swrepubliccommando/

    Tom
     
  9. Randell

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    bearing in mind that Palpatine is manipulating them through their greed, it's a bit of a stretch to say they are the good guys.
     
  10. jvd

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    Well its less of a stretch to call them the good guys than the republic at this point .

    ANd you can even say the jedi are the bad guys in eps 2 as the squashed the only resitiance against palapatine even though palapatine was controlling them too. He was trying to weaken both sides so that no one could go up against him and considering that battle must have killed at least a third of the jedi and you can tell he is succeding
     
  11. Randell

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    hmm bearing in mind the open face of the trade alliance turned out to be a Sith Apprentice/Jedi turned to teh dark side lets just accept there is no black and white/good and bad in Eps 2 and 3 - all sides are dupes to Palpatine.

    You can hardly call the Jedi bad for mounting a rescue mission and suddenly findig there's a whole droid army being constructed to move against the Republic.
     
  12. AlexWalters

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    If i was the big powerful emperor dude running the show, I'd give the rebels stuff so i could play war with them! It has to get boring ruling everything you know!

    The game does look nice, but im worried by the lack of UI, that suggests they havent invented a good one yet, so im getting a vibe of it being another starwars game with a nice useless and unwieldy interface.

    We can hope that they can pull off something nice. when i upgrade and finally get round to sorting out adsl i'll probably have a go at Starwars Galaxies and Battlefront. Got quite hooked on Earth and beyond a while ago! Very addictive (and expensive)!
     
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