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  1. zed

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    The MX200, at 250GB, is one of the fastest in its class due to how it switches to SLC mode to compensate for its lack of massive parallelism. It also has some capacitors to help in flushing out data if there's a power failure.
    Lol, I don't truly understand a lot of that but I very recently bought my first SSD and I did a lot of research (mostly of reviews).
    Fwiw, I ended up with Mushkin's Striker SSD, 480GB. Theoretically, it should be reliable, and with good read speeds.

    Edit: http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Crucial/MX200_250_GB/14.html
    http://www.anandtech.com/show/9258/crucial-mx200-250gb-500gb-1tb-ssd-review
    Those had me close to buying it. Here in the USA, at Newegg, the price has dropped, making it even more appealing in relation to its older sibling, the MX100.
     
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    Looking at real life performance in most applications I'd say get the disk that buys you most storage for your money.

    Ps "no desktop adapter included" doesn't that simply mean no 3.5" to 2.5" brackets included? Wouldn't worry about that. In my previous case I had the ssd lying on the bottom of the case.
     
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    Cheers Guys
    From the anandtech article it doesnt look like it, though Im not really concerned about speed as much as reliability
    thats what I hope it means ( I dont mind resting it on another HDD, as Ive done that multiple times before), and not that I need an extra cable adapter to plug it in (does it even come with a sata cable, not even sure I can buy one in this city, I couldnt get a Display Port to Display Port cable in this city)
     
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    http://www.samsung.com/in/business/business-products/ssd/ssd-850-evo/MZ-75E250BW

    This is the drive, and the only thing that matters is that it has a standard SATA interface, so you're fine.

    It's fairly rare to see funky interfaces, but they exist. For example many of the 2.5" drives used in external drives have non-standard interfaces. Which is part of why they are often cheaper than internal 2.5" drives.

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    Look at the new bx100. Its $185 for 500 gigs or $95 for the 250 and its faster than the MX 100. I have the mx100 and its been fine for me as an OS drive.
     
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    I have cheap adata ssd for os, game, photoshop scratch disk, and 16 GB page file. Works fine for around 2 years now.

    On the other hand my tablet have Samsung ssd with the 'gradual charge loss' and in around a year the write speed plummeted to as slow as USB flash disk -_-. It's also oem drive so the Samsung firmware update refuse to install.
     
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    Anandtech just posted a unflattering review of the MX200.

    But I'm really pleased with the BX100. Put a 512 GB one in the missus' computer to replace an Intel 320 and it feels hella snappy all of a sudden.
    Probably mainly to do with the older drive not having much space left but still. The Silicon Motion controller seems to keep up quite well compared to your typical Marvell.
     
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    I would grab the Samsung SM951 and the Lycom DT-120 adaptor.

    The PCIe SSD goes for around $230 for 256GB and you will see speeds in excess of 1GB/s read and write.
     
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    Well, I did say "in its class" and anandtech includes lots of bigger drives in the benchmarks. For some tests, and drives, size matters, as it goes to how they can use the flash in parallel (afaik). Also a factor is how you weigh the results. Most users aren't going to appreciate a drive's ability to act as a first class file server.
    The other link I posted, http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Crucial/MX200_250_GB/14.html, gives a rating more in line with "real life benchmarks".
    I was also impressed by user reviews, the design of the drive, and the company's reputation.
    But as I noted, I did go with a different drive. Performance wise it's hard to go wrong, and all the newest drives seem to have their firmware in order.
    And that seems to be important. ;)
    http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=394083
    http://www.anandtech.com/show/8997/...0-evo-performance-another-fix-is-in-the-works

    Good luck, and I'm sure you'll really enjoy the speed of whatever you get.

    Edit: Huh, the BX100 has amazing bang for the buck. http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Crucial/BX100_250_GB/15.html
    I guess what the pricing is, between the quality choices in your price range, should determine your choice.
     
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    The BX100 seems fantastic for the price. Performance is mostly great across the board on modern SSDs. If you want top reliability I think Intel is generally considered the best in that regard, and their drives aren't super overpriced though they do run more than something like the BX100.
     
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    Warning My Crucial MX200 was a piece of junk, I try all programs trying to find an error, nothing gets reported ala 'all A OK' but when I boot it constantly goes 'repairing drive'. Yesterday it repaired it 3x in a row (reboot after each) before windows actually started working, it seems to be getting worse, even during windows it pops up with a message 'drive needs to be repaired'.
    I've just done what I should of done at the start and ordered a samsung 850
     
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    Sounds like you got a bad drive. Really could have happened with the Samsung too. Why not just rma the disk?

    As far a I know crucial drives generally have good reliability. My 64gb m4 is still going strong after 4 years.
     
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    Hell, my 256 gig Crucial C300 which is ~5 years old now is still chugging along just fine. I've moved it from my boot drive (with all temp files and directories left on it and not moved) to being my game drive though. So less writes go to it to extend it's life. And if it does eventually fail, it has non-critical data on it.

    I'm waiting for the Black Friday, Christmas, and/or after Christmas sales to get a newer 1 TB SSD. Likely going to be a Crucial BX drive or possibly an 850 if the price drops low enough. There is very little reason for me to go for the 850 over the BX, however. Slightly faster and slightly more power hungry than the BX, but also quite a bit more expensive.

    Everyone has had their problems. Samsung had a rather serious data loss problem with their EVO drives for a bit. But I think they finally got that fixed after multiple firmware updates over the course of a year or so.

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    Its not just the drive its their software that seems bad, I'll post screenshots tomorrow (requires a reboot)
    I have a 850 already (I stuck it in the laptop) which has no issues
     
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    My 1st gen. Intel X25-M 80GB still works fine. That's 7 years of desktop usage and still going.

    Now using a PCIe SSD (Apple branded Samsung XP941).
     
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    So it works fine if you don't use the Crucial software?
     
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    It's pretty much impossible to wear out a SSD through general use. AFAIR, there's a couple "killer marathon" benchmarks where some drives have racked up multiple petabytes of writes after months of constant writing before finally croaking, and even cheap small capacity drives have survived a couple hundred TBs of writes. It's pretty hard to legitimately amass such amounts... :)

    I have an X-25E 60GB, and it too still works. Haven't seen much use for the past two years though, so not really comparable I guess. :) Last I checked it, it copied at 220-ish MB/s reading and writing on the same drive, despite lacking trim support. SLC flash powa! :p
     
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    Techreport.com has the SSD Endurance write tests for those curious about the results.

    It should be impossible for consumers to kill their drives through regular use or even if abused as a temp download from usenet or torrents drive.

    Now adays the only reason a drive fails is from firmware bugs or faulty power supplies or lack of surge protection.

    Hell, my original OCZ Vertex 1 is still going strong and thats the first ever consumer SSD series.
     
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