Source: A capable outdoor engine?
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Mendel said:
It's possible, but you have to scale down your units.
FAQ: Would it be possible to make a mod similar to Battlefield 1942 with Source?
RejZoR said:
The things you mention don't have anything to do with the game engine, do they? Just a matter of level design...
What you can see, is the atmospheric perspective. The way that the colors become less saturated, and a bit shifted towards blue, in the distance. That is something the game engine must perform.
Saturation decrease seems ok... Bit difficult about the color shift. That's only visible on really large distances.
Ylandro said:
Exactly, if you can render such a big scene, only your hammer skills restrict you from doing a far cryanic level
The shot is indeed majorly only a shot of 3d skybox but if such scene can be rendered, I'd imagine one could just as well do as big a walkable and drivable level, with better details without modifying the rendering engine.
The shot in its self isn't supposed to be impressive and I'd even imagine they didn't intend it to be looked at like that either. That said, you'd be hard pressed to be able to make even such a relatively simple outdoor scene with doom3 engine for instance.
Well, now we only need to wait for the mod people to do their magic
This shot only proves that there isn't some arbitrary hard-coded limitation in the engine that prevents large area rendering.
If one were to strip a vista down to bare, funky-textured terrain, with absolutely nothing but a skybox and ambient lighting, I don't think any engine from the past five years or more couldn't handle it.
Once they load it up with something besides a thousand repeats of the same texture, I'm sure we will see how strong Source is for outdoor places.
If one were to strip a vista down to bare, funky-textured terrain, with absolutely nothing but a skybox and ambient lighting, I don't think any engine from the past five years or more couldn't handle it.
Once they load it up with something besides a thousand repeats of the same texture, I'm sure we will see how strong Source is for outdoor places.
It says here that it can do outdoor scenes http://www.valvesoftware.com/sourcelicense/enginefeatures.htm
and a couple of the video's and screen shots have vast outdoor areas in them.
http://www.hlfallout.net/media/displayimage.php?album=5&pos=67
and a couple of the video's and screen shots have vast outdoor areas in them.
http://www.hlfallout.net/media/displayimage.php?album=5&pos=67
Ylandro said:
LHS= left hand side
you can guess the other one. Just the simple single tiled texture isn't good enough the right hand side shows off something that is *reasonable* good probably isn't the right word. Out door scenes like this sort of make light maps irrelivant :/It looks like the left side is normal heigh-mapped terrain and the hills on the right are separate meshes, hence the harsh texturing difference. Without work, an Unreal Engine terrain scene can look just as bad. Good terrain in the Unreal Engine is achieved by effort on the part of the artists, not just by the engine's technology. The various textures are "painted" on in several layers with alpha masks. Anyway, I doubt that Source is incapable of doing the same. It's a fundamental concept of detail terrain texturing.
I didn't say that Source is incapable of rendering outdoor sceenes,but CryEngine for example was designed with huge landscapes in mind.
It can render indoor scenes too,but its primary job is outdoor scenes full of vegetation and miles of terrain. Source was designed with mix of these two environments. Or for example the graphic engine from Mercedes World Racing which was capable of rendering really impresive detailed huge landscape with all special effects available to date.
It can render indoor scenes too,but its primary job is outdoor scenes full of vegetation and miles of terrain. Source was designed with mix of these two environments. Or for example the graphic engine from Mercedes World Racing which was capable of rendering really impresive detailed huge landscape with all special effects available to date.
Mendel said:
Actually, it didn't me long at all when I did it a couple months ago...
http://home.earthlink.net/~elkgarden/shot00002.jpg
I agree that it's not about how pretty it is but the technical ability...that's the same thing I said back when I first posted this shot.