Soooo, how about that forum reorganization?

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As you are most likely noticing right now, we've decided to reorganize a large part of the forums, in order to improve clarity and better divide the forum along centers of interests. Overall, we also hope to have evened out the traffic distribution between the different forums a little bit better, with a few key exceptions.

These primarily are the Video, HDTV and GPGPU forums. So if we moved them more on top of the list and divided them as such, it's simply because we think they've got a lot of potential to increase in size in the coming months, and that we want to make sure to favor their growth as much as we can. As for the forums that have been moved down the list as a result of this restructuration, please do keep in mind that the total number of forums is actually down (and very slightly up including subforums), so that they're very much visible to anyone interested by these topics anyway!

As for Embedded 3D being moved up and General Discussion being moved down, this is mostly a result of console discussions representing more than a third of our forum visitors, something we cannot deny and can only hope to grow further (although, if anything, our tolerance for jerks is only going to go down as a consequence!). We still believe the General Discussion forum is a place for our posters to talk about the things on their mind, and as such, it feels more appropriate not to make it look like one of the most important parts of the site to new visitors - once they'll fit in, they're likely to be visiting it anyway, no matter where it is on the list!

Finally, three forums are quitting us today, but four new ones also arrived. The Developer Forum and the Beta Beyond3D Articles forum have been merged with 3D Tech, while Hardware and Software Talk have been merged together, as a consequence of the addition of a "Purchase Decisions" section which is likely to "steal" part of their traffic. The Video forum has a new child too, the Display Devices, Monitors and HDTV Forum, which we hope to develop further as the industry's focus shifts more and more towards these topics. Finally, we added a "Beginner's Questions" subforum to the 3D Technology & Hardware forum, in order to help newly registered users fit in, or to let anyone else ask their daily, weekly, or monthly stupid questions they wouldn't dare asking anywhere else! :)

Overall, one of the most controversial changes is the addition of more subforums, and the transformation of small forums into subforums. Some people don't like subforums, and we understand that. We are considering some forum mods to try to improve that situation slightly soon, but nothing is set in stone yet, and we are interested in your feedback on this subject, and any other topic related to the reorganization, or anything else, of course! We'd like you to try getting used to it for at least a few days before judging it too negatively.

Anyway, hopefully most will agree this is an overall improvement, and that it will benefit us all in the coming months, during which we hope to grow the sites and forums tremendously - at least, that's the goal! So stay tuned...


Uttar & The Beyond3D Team
 
Just be careful not to get too many sub-forums so you dilute the discussion too much and I think you'll be ok. :)

I think it's a good plan/move Uttar, very logical and I think it's responsive to the users needs.
 
Just be careful not to get too many sub-forums so you dilute the discussion too much and I think you'll be ok. :)
Well, we certainly don't want to dilute it too much, and that was one of the things we discussed most initially with this reorganization's planning. Purchase Decisions is going to reduce the number of threads in Hardware Talk and 3D Boards, which is why we merged Hardware with Software, and why we added "Reviews" to the title of 3D Boards. And Beginner's Questions is not supposed to be super-active (yet!), it's mostly something to improve focus in 3D Tech and encourage less technically versed visitors to post more at the same time! ;)

The only risk of dilution is with Video now being separated from HDTV, but that's a risk we're willing to take, if that's what it takes to make both subforums grow faster, and better. The reasoning for GPGPU is roughly similar. So things should work out nicely there. Hopefully, at least!


Uttar
 
We've set a limit of two sub-forums max per forum, and tried to pick them carefully to be either specialist/niche or not all that active but still deserving of a sub-forum in our opinion.

Obviously the advantage of the subforums and the way we moved PC and General down is that almost all the "core" mission stuff (and maybe all depending on monitor resolution) is "Above the fold" (old newspaper phrase) now.
 
Thanks a lot for the newly created "Beginner's Questions" subforum. I came here to learn a lot of things that i was afraid to ask somewhere else, and now the inclusion of a subforum dedicated to these things is a very well received decission. You will see me there quite often.
 
Btw, I should add that if there's anyone who has a particular interest in a given subforum and is concerned about losing visibility of it, that you can use the "Forum Tools" drop down to subscribe the forum, and then it will show up in your CP and you'll always see the last post for that subforum there.

Actually, it appears to me you could use that ability to design your own forum interface to a degree, excluding such forums as don't interest you.
 
:oops: oops, nevermind. It's been awhile since I've used the new posts feature, so I wasn't sure if the "Forum" list was going to show the sub-forum name. :p
 
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how about expanding the programing subforum to include both 3d and non 3d programing questions. Having it to specialized causes it to be quite less frequented.

epic
 
how about expanding the programing subforum to include both 3d and non 3d programing questions. Having it to specialized causes it to be quite less frequented.

epic
I don't think the goal is to have a forum specialized specifically in programming, or at least not non-3D programming. 3D Algorithms and Coding isn't exclusively programming, after all. If you want to discuss non-3D programming, do so in Hardware & Software Talk. As for 3D Algorithms & Coding, we'll try to increase its activity over time as much as we can, and I think generalizing its topic to "Algorithms" might help there! (it used to be "Architecture and Coding")

Since I don't think we want to encourage a massive increase in that kind of discussion, and that it's not really part of our core mission, I don't think a subforum for this really makes sense. Maybe if there began being some good discussions in Hardware & Software Talk on these subjects, we might then consider making a General Programming Discussion subforum to H&S Talk. At least, that's my stand on it, not sure what the others think of that.


Uttar
 
Ehh, change where it wasnt needed is how I'm going to be with this. I thought the setup was fine and those who are here already knew where they wanted to go and get there quick.

Kinda useless if you ask me.
 
Ehh, change where it wasnt needed is how I'm going to be with this. I thought the setup was fine and those who are here already knew where they wanted to go and get there quick.

Might not be the target audience, at least for the moving around piece.

Tho possibly the Console guys might appreciate the upgrade in visibility (and implied upgrade in respect); particularly those with monitors big enough to not have to page down now.
 
Only thing WRONG I can see with these reorganizations is I can't rely on my muscle memory anymore to navigate between forums using the combobox menu... :p

If this helps B3D grow and improve, more power to ya guys!
 
Ehh, change where it wasnt needed is how I'm going to be with this. I thought the setup was fine and those who are here already knew where they wanted to go and get there quick.

Kinda useless if you ask me.

I would have to agree there.

Right now i'm looking at the main index and having no clue in the world what the hell I should be clicking on. General is at the bottom, the 3d/GPU sections are completely out of whack and sub-menu'd to hell. It was perfect how it was before...a single sub-menu for each section for the new ones that have been added would have been just fine, but right now it's a shambles.

The major Vbulletin upgrade a while back really changed the entire style of the board, and at first I was disoriented but it's grown on me. This new layout however, I don't think I can stand it. Honestly, I can't.

I don't know what to say...it just doesn't go down well with me sorry. :cry: Needs multiple selectable layouts! (yeah, wish wish hope cry).
 
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Eh? This forum has a front page?
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That one just never gets old for me.
 
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