Some Sony first-party PlayStation exclusives coming to PC

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    The idea of playing Horizon Zero dawn at 60fps is exciting.
     
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    They practically said that already. The head of Sony studios is saying he doesn't rule out more first-party games coming to PC, it doesn't get more obvious than this.

    Again, they are not going to go all out and announce stuff out of the blue, Microsoft started out shy and then built on it, Sony is going the same way.

    Several Sony developers speaking that they would love to bring games on PC, the head of Sony speaking about releasing games on PC, the head of Sony studios not ruling out more first party titles coming to PC? What are those if not strong hints?
     
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    Yes they make more money, but is it profitable enough for them? Is it worth all the trouble of developing expensive hardware and software? Is it sustainable at the same rate in the future? If Microsoft gave them more competition their margins will drop.

    That's going to be very difficult to achieve considering they maxed out this gen already with practically no competition in sight.
     
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    I agree that Sony would port more exclusive games to PC. But when their gaming profit stops growing because of cross-platform strategy,
    Sony will not go further.


    Sony's biggest profit comes from

    1. 3rd party royalties

    2. PS PLUS fee

    3. 1st party game sales


    It's very clear that if the third item (profit of 1st party game sales) increases but the first two decrease more, then the cross-platform strategy should be limited. That means some titles cannot have tail-end sales on PC because it will affect PlayStaion brand.
     
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    This is comedy gold actually:

    https://www.pcgamesn.com/gears-of-war/phil-spencer-says-not-every-xbox-game-will-come-to-pc

    We all know what happened after that.
     
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    There are people who game on PC that will never, ever, buy a PlayStation under any circumstance. Why not allow yourself to get money from them, too? It needn't be any more complicated than that. And I think Sony are going to chase PC gamer money with more vigor than some might think.
     
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    The director of God of War on Twitter:

     
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    I think sony is well aware of that after 25+ years of playstation. Sony wants a piece of the PC market, it's bigger then ever and stores are doing rather well, even the much-hated EGS store from epic.

    Who is that?
     
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    oh no one, just the the director of God of War :D
     
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    Nobody is that much of a fanboy. People switch from one platform to the other when the offering becomes overwhelmingly better.

    Hey, maybe there are people who will never buy an xbox, why not release forza gears halo and everything else on playstation?

    Do you think Microsoft have zero reason not to release everything on playstation?
     
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    Maybe they also start to 'experiment' ;)
     
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    The biggest source of revenue and profit for Sony is the PSN (30% cut on multiplatform games, MTX and services (PS + and PSNow). This is not selling their own games. This is why using the console as a gate to this revenue and profit is much more important than sold their game on PC. If sold exclusives game on PC has any negative impact on PS5 sales, they will stop. And Hermen Huslt talk of the date maybe sold game three years later when commercial life of the title is finish on console will be the norm.

    Here they hope to have people buying PS5 coming from PC, it is in the interview. I have only one reaction.

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    Saying you're not ruling it out is not saying you are going ahead with porting everything. the only PR sound-bite that provides evidence that Sony are creating more ports is Sony saying, "we are going to be releasing more games on PC."

    Non-committal messages.

    Yes. I was talking profits, not gross. Sony's profits are higher than the independent publishers, especially when you filter out mobile incomes.

    They've sold more hardware at this price-point than any previous platform. A super-cheap PS4 might do wonders - I wouldn't count the current install base as 'maxxed out' yet.
     
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    Exactly, most of revenue and profit comes from PSN, we can say than the most important things about hardware is to be the gate to PSN.
     
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    True, but why wouldn't Sony want, or be able to expand their PSN service to the PC platform?
    Also, Sony isn't exactly releasing their exclusives at the same time on PC, those that didn't buy a PS for HZD arent going to anyway.

    PS2 still stands tall as the most sold console, 50% more sold?

    Yes, and why limit PSN to one device? This 'experimenting' could mean Sony have their own store later on.
     
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    Now we are being pedantic. Please put 1 and 1 together:
    1-We are going to release more PC games
    2-We are not ruling out more first party games coming to PC

    Which they didn't have to give in the first place, you only give these kinds of messages when you are about to do the exact meaning of these vague messages. Microsoft gave the exact type of vague statements in the beginning of this gen, and look where we are now!

    Can't do that with an expensive console like the PS5, can't even properly do it with PS4Pro. It's an opportunity to expand their software profits in the face on increasing competition from Microsoft.
     
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    Because you think expand PSN to PC where there is other store and one dominant Steam will make them the same amount of money than on PS console.:lol:

    I never said that this is why I expect minimum 3 years between a release of a project on a PS console and a PC version but I imagine they do everything well but the first year the sales of PS5 are below expectation and the reason is some PC port and people switching to PC, they will stop immediately to stop porting games on PC illico presto.
     
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    Wont you get that with PS5, or were no definitive patches mentioned for nextgen?
     
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    True, but if Sony's games are that good, which they certainly are in the rankings, and they are the only ones offering excellent SP games, there is a market for PSN there too. See EGS trying to have their exclusive games.

    Agree on the first part, but why wouldn't they port a game that won't do much in terms of sales anymore? That all of sony's exclusives land on PC is probably very far away, but devs are starting slowly to expiryment with doing a pc release afterwards. I think this is what the dutch dev ment, with HZD releasing on PC, it doesn't mean there won't be games from them that take advantage of the PS(5), which some where afraid would happen.
     
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